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If anyone is in the parks, is BG1 working for you?

11:45am on 12/22/25 by meggie228

Bumping

2:57pm on 12/22/25 by TacMed

Sadly no. Late at night when in hotel I have been able to make a few switches but no luck when needed in the parks. I truly despise MDE for LL's and makes me appreciate Joel even more (is that possible?) and how spoiled I was in the past!

2:59pm on 12/22/25 by missWishes

Thanks for responding!!! Yeah it has really really spoiled us. So glad for Joel and all his work!! It hasn't worked for me in the parks either.

3:24pm on 12/22/25 by meggie228

Not working for me either. "Network request failed "

3:52pm on 12/22/25 by kcaseybooks

Has anyone tried using a VPN to see if that helps. I'm especially curious because of someone mentioning it would work at night from hotel but not when in the park.

8:34pm on 12/22/25 by youcanfly

I think it has more to do with what Joel needs to do to have it run.

9:13pm on 12/22/25 by PrincipalTinker

Disney's new security software is designed to block access.

9:15pm on 12/22/25 by PrincipalTinker

I got an error trying to use it yesterday in Epcot. FWIW the drop times were helpful and accurate but ymmv

9:24pm on 12/22/25 by sivako

Thanks @PT.

9:46pm on 12/22/25 by youcanfly

You can see your plans just can't modify. I'm here can also confirm not working.

10:08pm on 12/22/25 by nightowl04

I was just able to add Remy for tomorrow using BG1. But again, I'm back at my hotel for the night. Wonder if it's "locked" during the day and open at night or if it's location/in-park based? Def out of my tech realm of expertise. Just wanted to report. :)

1:23am on 12/23/25 by missWishes

I don't understand it at all but it seems to have something to do with "sensor data" that allows BG1 to work with the new security,

4:56am on 12/23/25 by PrincipalTinker

Ok, that's why I was wondering about VPNs. I've been thinking about doing one anyway but curious if anyone else has tried BG1 with a VPN.

6:05am on 12/23/25 by youcanfly

Thanks for this report. Now I have to learn how to use MDE. lol.

10:49am on 12/23/25 by Sam2071

Same @sam lol!

12:45pm on 12/23/25 by youcanfly

BG1 has been nice to reference as it easily shows all your plans. And the drops.

9:24pm on 12/23/25 by nightowl04

Yes I've been using it to see the times and my plans. MDE is too busy for my tired brain when I'm looking. I also learned yesterday that you can only have 3 active LLMP which I kept arguing with chat about. I was getting it confused with DLR.

10:38pm on 12/23/25 by meggie228

Chat person said that you should only expect to get 3 LLMP total each day. That's ridiculous for the amount of $ they're charging. BG1 always made it possible to get more. We at least got 8 yesterday for 20 people over the 4 parks

10:40pm on 12/23/25 by meggie228

Using MDE will still allow you to get more. The CM is saying that bc you aren't guaranteed to get more especially if you don't know what you're doing.

6:19am on 12/24/25 by Flutegarden

I had to use MDE during our November trip and it was fine. Not the best, but worked sufficiently to grab more LLs during the days. We used as many each day as we wanted to.

8:09am on 12/24/25 by utang44

That chat person is using CYA language. Only reason I'd ever use just three LLs is if that's all I wanted to use that day.

8:10am on 12/24/25 by utang44

BG1 is easier to use for drops unless there is a way to prioritize rides in MDE.

8:23am on 12/24/25 by nightowl04

I had to use MDE last week and it wasn't too bad. Was able to pick up SDD on drops 2x. Star it so it comes up first. BG1 is better and I was able to see plans much easier even if I couldn't book from there. MDE worked better than I remembered.

9:03am on 12/24/25 by JenniferB1975

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9:27am on 12/24/25 by matterhorn55

BG1 was working in MK for me a few hours ago to modify and book LLMP.

8:22pm by meggie228

BG1 started throwing network errors after about 10 minutes of searches in the park today, so I stopped trying to make bookings with it later in the day. Also at MK

1 min ago by RexAllegro

"What's cookin'?" Very delayed edition: Our youngest DD invited us to her house for dinner and Christmas festivities. After a delicious taco and enchilada dinner, DW and provided the makings for Christmas margaritas. Plus I've been playing with my eldest

7:45pm by TacMed

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Went to my sisters. Beef tenderloin, mashed potatoes, carrots, broccoli casserole and rolls. Christmas cookies for dessert. Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!

10:31pm by njhyndman

Tacos here, too. We had just about every traditional holiday dinner element in recent days (beef tenderloin, ham, turkey, several fishes, tons of sides) with extended family so today was taking it easy with only our household family.

36 min ago by gmcc

Manhattan strip roast, twice baked potato, sheet pan roasted broccolini and cauliflower. I tried my hand at caramel rum sauce but it is kind of liquidey. I will have to make a yellow Bundt cake to absorb it.

31 min ago by joeyjojojuniorshabadoo

What is a good Tron strategy when LL is sold out for your dates? We do plan on rope dropping, is it open then? Is this a good one to hop on right as the park closes?

40 min ago by keri50

Are hotels still giving guests with ADRs 3 hour limit papers to display on their dash while parked at the resort? If so, is that 3 hour limit being enforced?

2:28pm on 12/23/25 by DeepInTheHeartofTexas

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I'm not sure but on my last trip they were giving those out of the boardwalk which is unusual. Also I got a message yesterday for my Poly stay. I'll try to post it in a minute

2:51pm on 12/23/25 by youcanfly

Thank you for staying with us at Disney's Polynesian Villas & Bungalows! To help make sure you and all resort guests staying with us have enough parking and amenities, we'll only be allowing guests listed on a resort room, dining or recreation ***

2:52pm on 12/23/25 by youcanfly

*** reservation to park at the resort. All others, including those visiting registered resort guests, will be asked to park offsite at a different location and take transportation to the resort.

2:53pm on 12/23/25 by youcanfly

I have stayed at the Poly before and don't recall getting this

2:54pm on 12/23/25 by youcanfly

Friends parked at GF with an ADR recently and were given that, too.

2:59pm on 12/23/25 by TumbleMonkeys

We were given it at the Poly 2 weeks ago with our ADR. I used valet so can't speak to enforcement. A friend did try hard to hold to the limit though. There were no times written on the paper to be displayed and tires weren't marked.

3:32pm on 12/23/25 by snowdiz

Thanks everyone! @youcan I just got that exact message from WL for our upcoming stay also. I don't remember getting it before either.

12:46pm on 12/24/25 by DeepInTheHeartofTexas

@snowdiz that's what I remember getting also. Last year we parked at BW for our Cake Bake Shop ADR and received that slip (no time listed or noted) but then went to Epcot for a few hours after and it wasn't an issue. I actually plan to do that same thing

12:47pm on 12/24/25 by DeepInTheHeartofTexas

This time. Cake Bake Shop and then EP for WS. It'll be marathon day of our Dopey challenge so if I can save a few steps walking from IG instead of the main gate I'm going to!

12:48pm on 12/24/25 by DeepInTheHeartofTexas

Parked 11:30 at GF got one marked lunch. We had planned to resort hop. Strolled over to Poly and decided to ask concierge how it works. Basically they had no idea! They said be careful though because you could get a ticket. I asked how when there has....

1:34pm on 12/24/25 by stustaff

Been no warning of a ticket, no charge or fee info posted and they didn't record what time we arrived even. Also it's a cast parking lot and many cars don't even have the papers in so presumably if you just leave it off dash what can they do?!

1:36pm on 12/24/25 by stustaff

They could get your name from your adr and flag your account. You don't have to pay a private lot tickets are they aren't linked to you dmv profile.

4:15pm on 12/24/25 by WorldTraveler34

We went last Sept to brunch at the GFC and went to MK after. We didn't display the sheet on the dash. We were a bit nervous as our vehicle is unique and stands out, but it was totally fine and no ticket or anything.

4:35pm on 12/24/25 by hauntedmansionnurse

@worldtraveler they don't have our ADR linked to our vehicle though. We gave security our name and he handed us the sheet. You then leave and go and park in cast car park. He didn't note our cars plate down and there are no cameras on the cast car park.

4:55pm on 12/24/25 by stustaff

I didn't see anyone checking this evening. Not sure if they would be more watchful during the day. I have a feeling this is more on the honor system.

10:10pm on 12/24/25 by nightowl04

Clear who has "honor" and who doesn't.

9:08am by Ali Ababwa

I think someone got coal in their stocking LOL! Merry Christmas everyone. We had ADR at grand Floridian Cafe and we're given a pink parking pass. We ate our meal and then shopped for a while, over the three hours. Nothing on our car when we came back.

9:22am by RememberTheMagic

I always thought this chat helped with "hacks". It is up to each liner who uses/don't use these hacks (overlapping hotels, camp sites, etc). The best thing is to expect no judgement from others. Merry Christmas

9:45am by PrincipalTinker

Well said @PT! Happy Holidays :)

10:51am by Rjcsmom

Boy oh boy do miss the backside of magic podcast. I wish they would bring it back even if just on Patreon. I'd happily pay them for their content. It was so much fun.

12:05pm by popupcamper

Campsites are the best. I can have onsite perks and stay in a large home for less than 2 cheap rooms.

12:34pm by JackOfAll

I think I need an ethic class. Not sure how them telling you to put a paper in window is honor without a promise. Honor is as honor does. Know the rules to engage.

12:56pm by JackOfAll

Personally I see a difference between sharing information about legit bargains and timesavers, and specific advice on deliberately breaking property rules without consequence. That's just my personal ethics, respecter of the rules of my host.

1:09pm by Ali Ababwa

Thanks for the recent experience all. Merry Christmas!!! Countdown to Dopey....13 days!!

5:39pm by DeepInTheHeartofTexas

So impressed with a dopey!! Have all the fun!

6:28pm by popupcamper

@Ali...I'm assuming that you arrive for all LL during the one hour window. Even though every "tips and tricks" website says there is a 119 minute grace period, that's not official on the WDW site.

7:47pm by Phil H. Magic

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We don't currently use LLs, so I haven't reviewed the rules for LLs, but I'd hazard a guess there is nothing in MDE prohibiting use of the grace period as permitted by WDW CMs. Is there?

8:22pm by Ali Ababwa

Good luck @Deep - as a 2-time Dopey my best unsolicited advice is to make sleep a priority and get horizontal as early as possible EVERY pre-race evening, and every post-race day stand/walk in a cool swimming pool for 30+ minutes. Best wishes!

8:35pm by Ali Ababwa

If the 119 minute grace period is permitted by CM's as they're allowing you in the LL line, then I would argue the CM's are offering a grace period for parking by not towing cars or some other form of penalty for violating the 3 hour window.

10:31pm by Phil H. Magic

DS got married in October and new DIL is a teacher. I am helping them plan their February break honeymoon to Aulani. Aulani website says dining opens at 45 days, any recent experience? Can you book length of stay? Thank you!

7:55pm by PrincipalTinker

Paging @Totsy :)

10:16pm by cdlla

Goofy family Christmas...day 5. Today we start with sleeping in. We have breakfast mid-morning at Steakhouse 71. After that, who knows. MK park reservations, but we are just hoping to enjoy the atmosphere. Maybe peoplemover if we're lucky. Merry Christ...

7:33am by goofygardiner

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We met up with the girls after their nap, and had supper at connections. We met Mickey and Minnie in their winter vacation outfits at the DVC lounge. Magic Kingdom fireworks from the bridge at BLT and now off to bed. Tomorrow...bus roulette. Merry Chri...

9:10pm by goofygardiner

Second time that has become cut off today, even though it says I'm not out of room. Let's try again... Merry Christmas!

9:10pm by goofygardiner

Merry Christmas! What a wonderful day

10:10pm by AreWeThereYeti

Planning a Disney cruise in june 2027. Would cruise first then WDW for 4 or 5 days. Is it easiest to fly into FLL the night or 2 before and stay at a hotel near the port? Does Disney have transportation from the port to WDW? It would be our first cruise.

2:12pm on 12/24/25 by WildernessPixie

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How is the transfer from Brightline to the cruise terminal? What's the total time like for transit from a ship in Ft Lauderdale to MCO? Or vice versa? I'm considering a cruise-WDW trip in July but still figuring out logistics.

12:05pm by Ali Ababwa

The Brightline train from MCO to FT Lauderdale was a little over 3 hours. We came in the night before our cruise.

1:35pm by JenniferB1975

I would use rideshare or taxi to the station. It is about 5 miles.

9:49pm by Elaine5715

Happy Festivus! Any grievances anyone wants to air out today?

12:32pm on 12/23/25 by vickiwaffles

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"I've got a lot of problems with you people!"

12:45pm on 12/23/25 by TacMed

I do! My (long) list of grievences starts with DH who keeps forgetting to take the chapstick out of his pants pocket before putting his wash in the laundry. His clothes now look like he took a bath in a deepfryer.

12:55pm on 12/23/25 by trishr.

I'll add one; people who drive at or below the speed limit in the passing lane, stay in the right lane please.

1:00pm on 12/23/25 by TacMed

Today is Festivus!? I need to play that Seinfeld episode for the office before we leave for the day. Hmmmmm.....people who run in the street when there's a perfectly good sidewalk RIGHT THERE!

1:21pm on 12/23/25 by popupcamper

Bubble machines in ride lines. Even worse, bubbles being blown by our food, even in outside settings. Some of us are allergic, and it is just yuk.

1:35pm on 12/23/25 by snowdiz

I have a list of grievances against life these days, but I am so thankful for y'all.

2:18pm on 12/23/25 by utang44

I'm noticing it more and more these days when at Disney or at home, but I don't see how some parents allow their children to play standing up/running around at a restaurant. I saw a few times at Disney on our last trip and just this past weekend at hom

2:48pm on 12/23/25 by danielle.817

Having done a LOT of driving to & from DD's college lately, I'm with @Tac on the left lane shenanigans. Also the fact that so many people seem to consider lane demarcations optional. Had an oncoming guy drive AT me on the commute home a few weeks back!

3:28pm on 12/23/25 by JJT (staff)

@danielle Several years ago at Kona there was a family with a super rambunctious toddler all over the place. Fine, kid needed to release some ya-yas, but harumph. What really got me was when father unit finally stopped toddler and STOOD him up...

3:29pm on 12/23/25 by JJT (staff)

..barefoot ON THE TABLE, where he then decided to run back and forth. Check, please!

3:30pm on 12/23/25 by JJT (staff)

@JJT my jaw is on the floor after listening to that haha.

4:13pm on 12/23/25 by danielle.817

Ooh I have one! Why do appliances always break during the holidays. My clothes dryer isn't a year old and it burned crispy my pajamas! Only mine! So it's personal!

5:23pm on 12/23/25 by quakechicago

I hear you @quake! My eldest DD's hot water heater went Sunday morning. Of course she was hosting a party for her husband's family that same day.

6:14pm on 12/23/25 by TacMed

I hate all the changes in at WDW

6:34pm on 12/23/25 by WorldTraveler34

Let's start with people who yell at the kids to "STOP RUNNING" at 10 pm outside my room when returning from the parks, people who aren't prepared with double strollers to board the sky ovens, dropping stuff, causing a shutdown

7:43pm on 12/23/25 by Elaine5715

This morning just as I was exiting my room at Beach club between 830 and 9 to head to breakfast I heard two people talking loudly in the hallway - was shocked to see it was two of the housekeeping staff :-(

8:49pm on 12/23/25 by tl5

I am pissed off that prices are high and things that went away during Covid haven't come back, for example the Festival of the Loin King package. We did it every time we went since it was offered. Can't beat a great meal at Tiffins, cup seats at LK show,

9:34pm on 12/23/25 by Opa-Wan Kenobi

And a ride on safari without wait.

9:35pm on 12/23/25 by Opa-Wan Kenobi

Festival of the Loin King sounds intriguing.

10:01pm on 12/23/25 by utang44

10:24pm on 12/23/25 by cdlla

Lol @utang! I didn't catch it the first time I read it! Love when this happens. My grievance for today: bathroom sinks where auto faucets are low on battery.

10:35pm on 12/23/25 by missWishes

Bwahahaha!!! Typo of the day!! Love it!!

4:46pm on 12/24/25 by hauntedmansionnurse

No grievances here. Blessed to be able to go to WDW and see my DD at the same time. But I am now going to celebrate Christmas Eve and the Festival of the Loin King going forward!!

5:20pm on 12/24/25 by 4wvufans

May I mention how much I dislike seeing discussions here of how to circumvent the rules at WDW? Disney has been doing this a long time, every rule is there because some selfish person ruined it for the rest of us.

9:11am by Ali Ababwa

Nah those rules are there because Disney have people there who want to make even more money whenever they can. That have a people parking at resorts issue because they have a greedy $35 a day flat parking charge. On people already paying thousands to them

9:22am by stustaff

They don't have a parking shortage, unless you count the one created by them to intentionally make money. Remember for just an extra $42 on top of my meal costs we could have parked our car there all day! Money talks..

9:25am by stustaff

@ali, can I gently suggest that if you don't care for the topic, you scroll past? This thread is several days old.

9:27am by utang44

Or perhaps they are trying to keep the resort parking available to the folks that paid for accommodations there, and not have parkgoers fill up the spaces and leave their cars all day?

9:27am by Ali Ababwa

Oh I'm sorry I thought it was okay to respond to a thread less than 48 hours old

9:28am by Ali Ababwa

Please let us know @utang44 the time regulations that you have established for commenting on threads here, we all want to comply

9:40am by Ali Ababwa

@ali they didn't give us parking in the resort, we happily drove to the giant cast parking lot and then walked into the resort. Ironically next to another huge plot that was being unused and for the cost of some paint could have been an ADR parking lot..

9:45am by stustaff

And again they would have given us and everyone behind us a resort guests space for the low low price of $42 so that's how much they cared to save them for resort guests.

9:46am by stustaff

Parking is free at resorts.

11:00am by Elaine5715

Wait? Threads have a time limit? Be sure to note that next time one that is years old is resurrected or do some posters get a pass?

11:02am by Elaine5715

Sometimes it takes me 3 or 4 days of repeatedly trying to get "my chats" to load. I can't bump something or respond after a couple of days? I missed that. Sorry

11:58am by PrincipalTinker

Merry Christmas everyone!

1:10pm by mnfc

My grievance is that I'm not at WDW today. And the cost of everything but gas !

1:55pm by snelvis

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@elaine limited parking is free and you have to be a guest or have an ADR, if you have ADR it's free for 3 hours OR you can pay for valet and then stay as long as you like.

1:57pm by stustaff

@elaine limited parking is free and you have to be a guest or have an ADR, if you have ADR it's free for 3 hours OR you can pay for valet and then stay as long as you like.

1:57pm by stustaff

@Stu, or scam your way in like everyone else. Once you are in, you are in for the day and that's the issue.

9:46pm by Elaine5715

Any ideas why I can't get a LL for LwtL on Jan12? It doesn't show up as an option at all.

9:40am by avassar

Because it is currently Glimmering Greenhouses. It should become available when GG ends,

9:41am by PrincipalTinker

Awesome, thanks!

5:42pm by avassar

I'm also frustrated because it won't be glimmering greenhouses first week of Jan and when I just booked LL the other day, I couldn't get it then either

9:20pm by LaurenInWonderland

We are staying at CBR and only just realized IG is my only choice for entrance into EP if using WDW transportation. Will I be able to get on GotG in a decent time if we ride the skyliner and are first on it? Or should we get Ubers? Party of 20

11:13pm on 12/23/25 by meggie228

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This is for Christmas morning and I'm taking about EE.

11:13pm on 12/23/25 by meggie228

I feel your pain Maggie. I usually stay at CBR. I know lots of Liners have had success RDing GoTG from IG. BUT not this time of year. I am sorry. I truly have no idea today. I bet if you are in one of very 1st SLs then it is very doable. I would walk to H

4:48am on 12/24/25 by h2olly

to HS SL station to make sure you don't have to wait in Riviera SL station line for a semi-empty SL

4:49am on 12/24/25 by h2olly

Maggie, maybe someone else will chime in, but IMO the SL people seem to arrive earlier than people who Uber. Just my opinion. I don't know if this is really true or not. Let us know how it goes. Good luck!

4:51am on 12/24/25 by h2olly

Thanks so much! We are really good about about being first in SL or bus line. We would walk to the hub. I've trained these people (family) to be up and in line at 5:50am for any 7:30 EE park opening.

6:16am on 12/24/25 by meggie228

My husband just asked if we were first at Rivera, wouldn't we get on the empty ones that are there before the CBR ones show up? We are 2 min from Rivera. But we wouldn't risk it if the Rivera ones aren't empty at th very beginning.

6:30am on 12/24/25 by meggie228

I've never been on Christmas but normally starting at IG doesn't make you TOO far behind at GOTG. I personally wouldn't uber 20 people. As far as riviera I don't know that answer but it's a great question.

7:27am on 12/24/25 by popupcamper

Found one. Rob with earscouts timed his wait on two different days (not a perfect comparison). When he entered from main gate he was at the preshow at 8:34. When he entered IG it was 8:41. So 7 (yes seven) minutes later from IG. The much better...

7:49am on 12/24/25 by popupcamper

...experiment would have been him entering IG and Eric entering main gate on the same day but I couldn't find a video of that. https://youtu.be/STfTgOyCfCo?si=ZsYUqZooSbGFXeP1

7:50am on 12/24/25 by popupcamper

I'm still watching the video and he was then 22 minutes behind in the TT line where he was coming from main gate because he got there after early entry was over.

7:56am on 12/24/25 by popupcamper

I can't find anything on riv. I did see a thread on disboards where one person said waiting for an empty SL at Riv is a pain at RD and one person said they've never had to wait for an empty SL at RD. So let us know what you decide.

8:28am on 12/24/25 by popupcamper

I would get on the Skyliner at CBR. Skyliners are full when they get to Riveria. A party that big would never be able to board at the same time. Even if the occasional car is empty your group would be separated by many cars and not get to IG together

8:57am on 12/24/25 by JenniferB1975

@jennifer, it's an Interesting thought though. Are there cars just stopped at the riviera line overnight? So if you're at the riv station before it lets anyone board would there be a few empty cars at the very beginning before the CBR guests get there?

9:58am on 12/24/25 by popupcamper

We got on Skyliner when it started at CBR and they were filling every car. Saw lots of people waiting at riviera as full Skyliner passed by. So maybe if you were at Riv when skyliner started you may be ok?

12:04pm on 12/24/25 by JenniferB1975

That's been my experience too but I've never started at RIV so I'm interested.

12:42pm on 12/24/25 by popupcamper

@meggie- you're traveling with EVC's right? we had a liner who had a terrible experience with riviera waiting for an EVC accessible pod. Idk that I'd risk it. I'd just hike to CBR to be safe.

12:52pm on 12/24/25 by lizshiv

We were there last Wed 12/17 and rope dropped GOTG from CBR. We scanned into the park right before 8:30 and were on the ride by 9:05. No line at the skyliner.

1:41pm on 12/24/25 by danilynn1217

Thanks for all the responses! I went and asked at the skyliner. They said there are about 15-20 empty cars at Rivera when it starts running before the CBR gondolas show up. But we are now up to 4 wheelchairs so we have decided to not risk it.

6:32pm on 12/24/25 by meggie228

But if our group didn't have EVC's we would've done it. Especially if we were front of the line. Which is always our goal.

6:34pm on 12/24/25 by meggie228

More than 1 wheelchair on Bake Boxes is a hindrance.

6:35pm on 12/24/25 by JackOfAll

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Thanks for doing the research @PopUp! I wonder about this every single trip. @Meggie, sorry. Been off of chat this week. Yes. I didn't think of empty SL cabs at Riviera. Great point. You wouldn't have to wait on empty one.

11:52am by h2olly

@Meggie 228. Have fun today! Hope your whole group got on GoTG together! Thanks for asking CMs about empty SL cabs overnight at Riviera.

11:56am by h2olly

Thanks! We had a great day. RDed GotG, LLMP for MS, TT, and Soaring and a LLSP for GotG. We rode all of them and were back to CBR by 11:35.

8:21pm by meggie228

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