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258. Good morning and have a great Monday Liner friends!

6:13am by TacMed

Nice @eva. One day hope to persuade DS21's GF to come-think no chance till they have kids. Priority is to persuade her into skiing 1st.

9:47am by hodg

Heading to EP this afternoon for the ELO concert, one of my favorites. Then have 1st time reservation at Geo82. Menu strange but want to try a new experience.

9:54am by snowdiz

53!

15 min ago by cobia

What year was your first visit to WDW? Identify by significant national/world events only! I'll start: The year of my first visit, The Karate Kid was released in theaters!

2:27pm on 3/18/26 by X the Owl

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The top song of the year was Bette Davis Eyes!

2:31pm on 3/18/26 by popupcamper

The year Animal Kingdom opened!

2:45pm on 3/18/26 by maurine08

We were all introduced to Luke, Leia, Han and a cast of costumed characters.

2:48pm on 3/18/26 by MOJoe

Vietnam War ended, Microsoft founded by Bill Gates & Jaws released. BIG year!

2:51pm on 3/18/26 by herri

My first visit was either the year Sally Ride became the first American woman in space OR the year the first Mac was released.

2:52pm on 3/18/26 by utang44

The McNugget was introduced.

2:52pm on 3/18/26 by TumbleMonkeys

Apollo 17 astronaut Eugene Cernan was the last person to walk on the Moon.

2:55pm on 3/18/26 by Ali Ababwa

Jurassic Park was released, the EU was formed. Poland held 1st elections & Clinton became president.

3:12pm on 3/18/26 by hodg

The year of the Macarena!

3:15pm on 3/18/26 by joeyjojojuniorshabadoo

Kurt Cobain died, the Lion King was in theaters, and Nelson Mandela was elected President of South Africa.

3:18pm on 3/18/26 by JoeyPotter98

So many! Alien, Moonraker, first Star Trek movie... and 3 Mile Island on the East Coast

3:30pm on 3/18/26 by Magicalday2011

Bill Clinton was first elected. The LA Riots. The Barcelona Olympics. Hurricane Andrew. DH was a huge Mickey fan and he wanted me to be a fan too...

3:38pm on 3/18/26 by evamarie320

Cyanide-laced Tylenol kills first three victims, leading to new tamper-proof medicine containers. Michael Jackson's Thriller album was released.

3:43pm on 3/18/26 by mkmuzzy

Tonight we're gonna party like it's 1999.

3:47pm on 3/18/26 by njhyndman

Movies American Graffiti and The Exorcist were hits. The first mobile phone call was made. World Trade Center was opened. CR by MK was $40 per night. Days Inn Motel right outside MK gates was $24/night.

3:51pm on 3/18/26 by gmatink

Margaret Thatcher was elected as PM

4:16pm on 3/18/26 by cdlla

Sadly, Exxon Valdez ran aground while we were there.

4:19pm on 3/18/26 by NesserFam

The year of Princess Bride, Dirty Dancing, and Michael Jackson's "Bad" album.

4:29pm on 3/18/26 by rickelwoman

The year of America's bicentennial

4:45pm on 3/18/26 by Bubbakirby

Bicentennial

4:46pm on 3/18/26 by mnfc

Challenger disaster

4:49pm on 3/18/26 by WorldTraveler34

Three Mile Island nuclear incident and the Iranian Hostage crisis. On a brighter note, the Muppet Movie was released.

4:50pm on 3/18/26 by gmcc

My first visit to WDW was the year the infamous statement" I did not have sexual relations with that woman" was made lol

5:28pm on 3/18/26 by momtwofour

The Winter Olympics were held in Salt Lake City

5:38pm on 3/18/26 by act72

Richard Nixon resigned.

5:45pm on 3/18/26 by Dell795

The first Toy Story movie was released.

5:46pm on 3/18/26 by BraveDisgrrl

Another one during the Bicentennial!

5:53pm on 3/18/26 by ginger66

MK 20th anniversary and CBR was cheapest (no values yet) and you could rent a Sea-Do!! Which my sister and I did! Such a fun memory. I don't know what was going on in the world because I was 10 lol

6:42pm on 3/18/26 by Gusgus5

Showing my age: Watergate scandal, Nixon's visit to China, Munich Olympic massacre, Bloody Sunday in Northern Ireland and Apollo 17 - the last manned mission to the Moon.

6:54pm on 3/18/26 by TacMed

The year of German reunification.

7:21pm on 3/18/26 by urbyq

Challenger explosion and Chernobyl. Yeesh, what a year.

8:23pm on 3/18/26 by yetisafari

TLC Waterfalls

8:50pm on 3/18/26 by JackOfAll

The Sword in the Stone to DLR

9:01pm on 3/18/26 by JackOfAll

Wow, thanks for all the interesting responses!

9:15pm on 3/22/26 by X the Owl

The Berlin Wall fell.

9:20pm on 3/22/26 by 4wvufans

The first time I have photographic proof I was there at least - the year Return of the Jedi was released

11:04pm on 3/22/26 by moondance07

I had been to DL at least once but the 1st visit I remember to WDW was the year New Coke was introduced.

2:30am by el_1102

Titanic was released

6:52am by DADLOVESDISNEY3

Reagan to Gorbachev- tear down that wall.

7:24am by disneydadben

Pong was introduced by Atari!

7:51am by pod4christ

Miracle on Ice and "Who shot J.R.?"

7:54am by IMarriedMyEllie

Watergate!

8:02am by goofygrandpa

Who Framed Roger Rabbit was released

8:48am by MrsNesbitt05

Avatar became the highest grossing movie worldwide and How to Train your Dragon Was released. :)

58 min ago by VikeQueen

I'm with @Bubba and @mnfc #200

54 min ago by JJT (staff)

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Beauty and the Beast was released!

36 min ago by melcort10

The United States officially ended its involvement in the Vietnam War

31 min ago by Sorcerers_Apprentice

A year before the bicentennial

16 min ago by cobia

Morning is it appropriate to tip after WAT?

9:55am by 58breezy

We tried, but they encouraged a donation to the wildlife fund instead.

26 min ago by snowdiz

Good to know. I have this booked in May

23 min ago by cobia

Jambo Liners! Day 7 of solo trip and my final park day. Join me at AK for a wild time!! Starting with breakfast at Satuli Canteen.

9:25am by njhyndman

Jambo!

9:40am by youcanfly

Meet us at Epcot tonight!

58 min ago by snowdiz

Best breakfast at AK. Enjoy.

31 min ago by Sorcerers_Apprentice

Thanks for your patience for fielding LLMP questions for what I'm sure is the zillionth time: prebook done. Is there much hope in modifying times before my park day (3/24 MK)?

7:11am on 3/21/26 by HHRose

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And does the 3 hr grace period apply to LLSP?

7:17am on 3/21/26 by HHRose

I was able to do quite a bit of modifying the day I booked, not so much by 24 hours later (when another days worth of people booked). Yes 119 applies to SP.

7:35am on 3/21/26 by evamarie320

Thanks Eva. I see BG1 still up and running (thanks Joel!) but still unable to modify LLSP. But excited to give it another go in a few days. During spring break I should be glad I was able to secure everything we want, even jf returns aren't ideal.

11:20am on 3/21/26 by HHRose

I finally need to properly learn how this works so happy to keep seeing LL questions!

12:20pm on 3/21/26 by hodg

@hodg Conventional wisdom seems to be to use one of your pre-books to secure a burner LL with as early a return time as possible. Mine is teacups with a 10am return. Later than I would like but it will be fine. Tap in and it unlocks tier 1 for the day.

5:58pm on 3/21/26 by HHRose

We had great luck both purchasing and modifying LLSP same day at HS and AK this week.

10:49pm on 3/21/26 by snowdiz

Not sure that's conventional wisdom. Many of us just book LLs to use with no burners. It can definitely be done effectively in both ways!

8:34am on 3/22/26 by utang44

I don't book a burner. I book early ones for park opening that I can use. BG1 allows overlap

2:13pm on 3/22/26 by JenniferB1975

I don't use burners either. I did back in maybe genie plus days but with the current system no need.

2:19pm on 3/22/26 by popupcamper

Just priced out what it's likely to cost for 6 days of MP, poss one SR on Rise. Ouch. Might brave an afternoon/ evening in EP without LL to reduce it a bit.

3:38pm on 3/22/26 by hodg

But then there's the arguement that we're paying 1000s for the trip, what's another $400.

3:39pm on 3/22/26 by hodg

That's my argument @hodg. Skip a couple of breakfasts and you're golden.

3:42pm on 3/22/26 by popupcamper

I'll push back re burner. Going during peak spring break and offsite. By the time I was able to book (3 days before) the earliest return time for anything I wanted was 3pm. But teacups at 10 will allow me to unlock. But yall have way more experience...

10:25pm on 3/22/26 by HHRose

WAIT. I GET IT. First time using the new LL at MK. Less crucial bc tier 1s aren't as hard to get. I needed it for EP bc all tier 1s desirable and fewer. Did I get this right?

10:30pm on 3/22/26 by HHRose

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Agree, @HH. I'd prefer an early LL I actually want, but if that's not an option, I'm taking an early one I don't actually want for one of my spots.

10:32pm on 3/22/26 by TumbleMonkeys

You could check at midnight before your park day or early in morning on same day. Rob with EarScouts says they drop more LLs at midnight and it's possible to modify to better times. I definitely could not do midnight night before a park day:

6:58am by rickelwoman

For us last week, nothing changed at midnight (yes, I checked) but once we were in the park we were able to move things up and even purchase Rise on a drop.

53 min ago by snowdiz

Any Liners at WDW today? Crowd levels are just 4s/5s ? I thought this was peak spring break time?

4:11pm on 3/21/26 by h2olly

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I thought the same but @PT said they changed CLs so I don't know if we actually know what 4/5 means currently.

4:14pm on 3/21/26 by popupcamper

Yesterday's actuals were all at least 1 point higher than predicted.

4:34pm on 3/21/26 by PrincipalTinker

This is the blog post I linked about the Feb-March update: https://touringplans.com/blog/disney-universal-crowd-calendar-updates-for-feb-10-mar-31-2026/

4:36pm on 3/21/26 by PrincipalTinker

I would say CL have been higher than predicted. EP the previous 2 days had long wait times and LL were harder to get.

4:48pm on 3/21/26 by njhyndman

I'm here now. Day 2. HS last night and EP this morning. Anecdotally, it "feels" crowded similar to Christmas break. Not terrible, but what I would expect for this week.

4:55pm on 3/21/26 by missWishes

Got here Tuesday. Pre-booked LLs were morning times, each day we've been able to stack 3 popular rides for afternoon park (return times between 5-8). It is much better than I expected but we're RDing each day and utilizing LL drops

5:01pm on 3/21/26 by LKriz

Looks like the actual CLs have been one or two levels higher the last few days. So predicting a bit low.

5:05pm on 3/21/26 by utang44

Interesting popup. So say...a CL of 5 no longer means the same wait time as it used to?

6:06pm on 3/21/26 by h2olly

I don't know but that's what I understand from a thread a week or two ago. @PT said they redid the CLs.

6:10pm on 3/21/26 by popupcamper

I like the "what does each number mean" on this page: https://touringplans.com/walt-disney-world/crowd-calendar#crowds

6:12pm on 3/21/26 by PrincipalTinker

I didn't see this earlier this week: https://touringplans.com/blog/how-accurate-are-our-wait-time-estimates-theres-a-spreadsheet-of-course/ Although this is wait times- wait times impacts crowd levels and there have been a lot of adjustments

6:18pm on 3/21/26 by PrincipalTinker

Thanks for the links PrincipalTinker

8:00pm on 3/21/26 by h2olly

Love that one chart. Wow. CL 1 still means up to an hour wait on 7 DMT

8:01pm on 3/21/26 by h2olly

I just checked the CLs for yesterday. AK was 2 higher (predicted 5, was a 7) but every other park was exactly as predicted: MK 4, EP and HS 5.

7:28pm on 3/22/26 by PrincipalTinker

Spring break in new England is late April

8:11pm on 3/22/26 by Crazycatlady3

Again I plead with TP to come up with a new name for this metric, even if it's Wait Level. Because it's not about the crowds.

8:57pm on 3/22/26 by X the Owl

Wow CL1 gets bumped up to 30mins. Are the old 10 minute waits for CL1 non existent now?

8:50am by Magicalday2011

@X I wish they could add a "real feel"

9:29am by FriendsWithTheMonster

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@magicalday, I think it depends on what you are waiting for. We have been during a CL1 during last year and found some attractions are still a walk-on especially at RD

9:37am by youcanfly

But "real feel" would be subjective, while TP's projections are data-based. A crowd can feel diffeeent to you than it does to me at times, but wait time is wait time.

9:44am by utang44

Agree @utang, which is why it would make so much sense to term it "wait time" instead of crowd level.

59 min ago by snowdiz

Tron: next week will be our first time. Is it a ride you'd suggest we attempt more than once? If yes I will try to grab an LLSP AND rope drop it (no EE).

1:18am on 3/21/26 by HHRose

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It will be the best 60 seconds of your life.

5:15am on 3/21/26 by JackOfAll

One and done for me. Things I didn't like: too long a wait given how short the ride. Uncomfortable riding position. Unclear storyline.

7:41am on 3/21/26 by evamarie320

I'd aim for twice but don't think I'm prepared to pay out for the LL cost for it

7:44am on 3/21/26 by hodg

DD's fav ride in MK. We like it. It is short but the take off is great. Def get the SP so you can ride thru the grid twice :)

7:47am on 3/21/26 by cdlla

We always do twice. Even 3 times. Zooms straight and fast. No twirly stuff for me! However, kids do give me a hand getting off the bike with my annoying runners' knees that don't wanna push up and off anymore.

7:55am on 3/21/26 by Jennyhirsch

It's too short for me to pay the LLSP cost for.

8:17am on 3/21/26 by utang44

It's our favorite! Yes, too short but I feel TRon is shorter. Our last year's was GOTG or Die trip! :) SLL 5/6 park days. Was a little insane.

8:20am on 3/21/26 by nivi0101

Again - illness brain. Too short. That and Gotg are our favorite. We did an after hour event and our goal was to do TRon and it was down the whole time. We loved VQ & additional deluxe extra drop. Now it's a SLL on MK day/ days. We love evening more

8:35am on 3/21/26 by nivi0101

1st impression I felt it was ok, too short. Last trip we finally rode after dark and I liked it much better.

9:28am on 3/21/26 by WendyMarie

I think it's worth a LL once to ride in the dark. Much better expense, imo.

9:37am on 3/21/26 by yetisafari

But after the first time I'd just wait in line and not do LL. There are times the lines aren't too bad.

9:38am on 3/21/26 by yetisafari

It's weird, ive only ridden three times. 1st and 3rd meh, 2nd I loved it. Have not figured out the difference (and don't remember where i was in the train).

9:49am on 3/21/26 by moondance07

I love Tron so much and would ride it over and over. My guilty pleasure is paying for the SP every MK day.

9:57am on 3/21/26 by KLuck

So weird but I am totally fine the Tron standby, even for an hour wait. It is air conditioned. And you get a few chances to see the ride taking off as you wind around. For some reason that really makes the time go faster for me.

10:25am on 3/21/26 by Jennyhirsch

I loved the ride. The standby line (during Christmas party) was not that long but REALLY claustrophobic to me - anyone else?

3:48pm on 3/22/26 by ForeverSafari

YES! I rode it 3x one day. (Got Everyone wants to rule world every time too:( Rope drop/ILL/ EEH

4:30pm on 3/22/26 by h2olly

Oh wait. Never mind. Wrong attraction. Tron is now once again trip for me. Not worth the time and/or expense for such a short ride. But that takeoff is the most exhilarating part in any attraction anywhere IMO

4:32pm on 3/22/26 by h2olly

I meant it is a one time per trip attraction for me

4:32pm on 3/22/26 by h2olly

I plan on getting a LL for Tron at least 1 day. I don't want to buy on other days if DD22 hates it. But I want her to ride it again if she loves it. Hated SM, loves 7DMT, loves EE, Loves RnR. What are your thoughts?

7:07pm on 3/22/26 by BTFP

We are going September 12-19, if that makes a difference

7:08pm on 3/22/26 by BTFP

Fun ride, but it can crush ... areas.

9:03pm on 3/22/26 by X the Owl

@BTFP, based on what she loves, I'd think she would love Tron, especially if she is okay with RnR take off. Buy Tron for multiple days and go to GS after first ride to ask for refund if she hates it first time. Smile ruefully and share the problem.

7:41am by Jennyhirsch

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Not sure this has been mentioned yet, but if you decide to ride twice, 1st time take whatever seat you get; 2nd time ride in the front. As previously mentioned, the ride is annoyingly short and not much of a story, but riding in the front car - WOW!! :)

8:12am by PaulAndCarrie

Thank you so much! @Jenny I will do that!

9:26am by BTFP

You are taking a risk, @BTFP, because no guarantee they will refund. But we have gotten LL refunds 3 dif times for illness or my adult DD saying her mom "overdid it" earlier in day.

9:55am by Jennyhirsch

What's the situation like at the Orlando airport? My daughter is freaking out and sending me TikToks with nightmare security lines.

8:48am by DisneyDooleys

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Yesterday about 10am gates 1-59 was posted as 40 min. Precheck was about 10 minutes. MCO Reserve took about 15. You can see current wait times on MCO website.

9:36am by sragne

I've had zero delays at TSAPre at Term A for any of the shutdowns last 6 months. Regular security looks longer and Term B always "looks" longer than Term A.

9:52am by Jennyhirsch

Unpredictable unfortunately. FYI We flew back Thursday got to airport about 1130/1200. Virtually no tsa line. Sounds like the next day was pure chaos

9:53am by VikeQueen

Day 6 of solo trip and back at MK! Got pixie dusted at Sir Mickey's on my way to Gaston's for lunch. That Ham and Gruyere Sam's which is SO good! Then did Ariel and Dumbo, and now in line for a trip through the Hundred Acre Woods.

2:58pm on 3/22/26 by njhyndman

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Sam's which? Sandwich! Sam makes a good one. Which you ask? The ham and gruyere!

3:24pm on 3/22/26 by njhyndman

Took a spin on a pink teacup and now I'm in Tomorrowland to use my Space Mountain LL.

3:24pm on 3/22/26 by njhyndman

Wait you rode teacups on purpose on a solo trip?!

3:28pm on 3/22/26 by popupcamper

I love the teacups! Like Dumbo it takes me back to childhood at Disneyland.

3:47pm on 3/22/26 by njhyndman

Wowzers. We took my niece when she was 6 and stupid magical express shard a video of the teacups. She cried the rest of the bus ride about aunt Popup not letting her ride the teacups. I literally walked her long ways so she wouldn't see them.

3:50pm on 3/22/26 by popupcamper

Is there a story behind your hatred for teacups? When I was little they made us ride them without shade and scorched the crap out of our legs.

3:54pm on 3/22/26 by Ali Ababwa

Nope. They just make me sick.

4:07pm on 3/22/26 by popupcamper

Ha! She'll forgive you eventually @popup. After Space I was going to do Peoplemover but the line looks nuts in the sun. Did Carousel of Progress instead. Now going to see if I can help fill a laugh canister.

4:17pm on 3/22/26 by njhyndman

I am with you popupI won't do Teacups ever again. Broke my rule in Feb at DL after DGS begged me to ride with him. It was AWFULStrangely enough, I can do Mission Space and GoTGI think the small spin radius or whatever it's called on Teacups is what got me

4:28pm on 3/22/26 by h2olly

Guardians is the best thing ever (sorry @jenny) but teacups is insane.

4:34pm on 3/22/26 by popupcamper

Took a lovely boat ride to the Grand for early dinner at Narcoosee's. So easy, it drops you right here. How have I not been here before!

5:35pm on 3/22/26 by njhyndman

Well Narcoosee's definitely wins the lobster bisque competition over Flying Fish. Creamy and dreamy with just a hint of spice. Yum!

5:47pm on 3/22/26 by njhyndman

I'm team teacups! And I'm intrigued that @popup's niece calls her Aunt Popup! ;)

5:53pm on 3/22/26 by evamarie320

I will add that I don't spin the cup when I'm by myself, just sit back and relax.

6:15pm on 3/22/26 by njhyndman

Little detour to the Poly to pick up the credit card I left at Wailulu last night. Of course the amazing CM at the Poly front desk tracked it down! Now on the monorail back to MK for fireworks and Starlight parade.

7:24pm on 3/22/26 by njhyndman

Rode Tron - I know it's short but it's so dam fun! Now with my POG mimosa and chocolate covered strawberries and ready for HEA!!

9:29pm on 3/22/26 by njhyndman

@nj I'm with you I love the teacups and have gone on many times during solo trips. I also don't spin the cup and like to just watch everyone have a good time! Sounds like you are having an amazing trip...enjoy the rest!

9:35pm on 3/22/26 by Justone

Thanks @Just it has been fun!

10:19pm on 3/22/26 by njhyndman

Took a ride on Peoplemover after HEA with little to no wait and then headed to Liberty Square to find a spot for Starlight. I have a spot by Hall of Presidents that I think should be good as we'll see the floats turn as they go to cross the bridge.

10:22pm on 3/22/26 by njhyndman

Lots if empty spots and the parade starts in 7 min. The second parade is the way to go if you can!

10:23pm on 3/22/26 by njhyndman

Such an awesome location! Being able to see the floats turn you really catch them from all angles. Jumped on PPF for one last ride before snagging a Minnie Van back to the hotel. Good night Liners!

11:52pm on 3/22/26 by njhyndman

Where did you get chocolate covered strawberries?! Yum!

11:58pm on 3/22/26 by Emily209

What a great day, @nj! @emily, I'm betting from the POG mimosa reference that @nj was at the dessert party for those strawberries.

7:31am by Jennyhirsch

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I'm also thinking- POG Mimosa?!?! In MK!

8:42am by Magicalday2011

Yes indeed, it was the dessert party!

9:28am by njhyndman

Cheers

9:46am by hodg

Talk to me about the idea of watching the noon FoF parade somewhere in Town sq and heading straight to meet micky afterward. (Tuesday) If yes, got any fave town sq spots? TP.com advises against this plan btw bc performers are tired by the end. Shrug.

12:39am by HHRose

You might just try viewing from the porch outside the building where Mickey is. We've watched from there before and it comes right by.

8:25am by utang44

To agree with your shrug, I would not be dissuaded by the performers made being tired by the end of town square works with the rest of your plans. And I like @utang's porch idea.

8:38am by TumbleMonkeys

Yes that porch has some rocking chairs for while ur waiting and then you can easily stand up and move to the porch railing as parade gets close.

9:06am by evamarie320

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