I just started a thread about this also. I'm at the very "front" of the street line and yeah, the only thing that matters is how fast we are getting to SDD
8:15am on 2/6/19 by
mbfavreau
Me and my friend were the first ones at the tapstiles this morning. We got there at 630am.
8:20am on 2/6/19 by
joejccva71
I'm not a fan of how they do it at all. Personally I wish they kept everyone back at tapstiles, it seems like it would create less of a "mob" crowd and it would be much safer.
8:40am on 2/6/19 by
CharmingPartyof6
So just mob scene and racing to SDD ... maybe I will skip, my son doesn't really care to go on ride ... I hate the race and no regard to others mentality ..
hope day is great for you
8:41am on 2/6/19 by
melafrance
I think they're going to walk us back to TSL.
8:42am on 2/6/19 by
joejccva71
Urgh hope it calms down a bit by August.
8:42am on 2/6/19 by
missoverexcited
RD for SDD was a horrible experience for DD9 and I last August. A teenage girl kept pushing everyone, then accused people of pushing her. She keep talking about my DD so I told her DD didn't touch her. Then the girl's aunt got up in my face and....
8:53am on 2/6/19 by
brandilou2
..put her finger about a nail's length away from my nose and began screaming at me. A CM asked if I needed assistance and offered to me me to the front of the line with some friends I had been talking to. I stayed there, but very uncomfortable
8:54am on 2/6/19 by
brandilou2
Oh my gosh. The more I see stuff like this the less I care to do SDD. Maybe if I can get a FP.
9:00am on 2/6/19 by
Clawhauser
Let us know where you end up on the ride!
9:04am on 2/6/19 by
heathernoel
So I was first at tapstiles and we were in front where they stopped us. They walked us back but it didnt matter. I was elbowed, pushed and shoved, stepped on and the whole bit. Its garbage. Some big dude holding his kliterally elbowed me and passed me
9:07am on 2/6/19 by
joejccva71
It's just not worth it. By the time I got on I was so pissed that j didnt even enjoy the ride and just wanted it to be over honestly. What a joke.
9:08am on 2/6/19 by
joejccva71
We were on and off SDD by 855. I live in NYC (the city, not the burbs),am used to crowds and have no kids and if I think it is an awful experience, I'd be surprised if everyone didn't also. I will never do that SDD RD ever again.
9:09am on 2/6/19 by
mbfavreau
Joejccva: I agree entirely. There is a grave injustice that you did everything "right" (showed up early, followed directions, acted like a good human) and were rewarded with animal behaviour. We are human animals, we should all remember that.
9:14am on 2/6/19 by
mbfavreau
It was definitely where I saw the most cutting and pushing... Felt so sorry for those cms.. Wish they would rope off the sidewalk so people wouldn't try to just blatenly cut..
9:23am on 2/6/19 by
love2plan
... But for those discouraged even with a stroller and needed to stop and get a rider swap we were able to ride all 3 toy story rides before 9 during extra magic hours. So still worth it for us just be prepared for lhose who think rules don't apply them
9:24am on 2/6/19 by
love2plan
yeah the sidewalk should definitely be roped off...!
9:30am on 2/6/19 by
lep33
We did this during Xmas week. Honestly it was what I expected. We were in the middle pack was able to ride SDD and TSM during EMH.
9:32am on 2/6/19 by
Vkohout
I read last night a report that noted those who ignored CMs instructions got head starts.
9:33am on 2/6/19 by
Elaine5715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcRqZKHgPXc. We went by Brian of TP's video for HS RD. We got there just b4 8am for 9am RD, which actually opens 8:45 really. By ar 8:10 was a crowd of thousands behind us, so it was important to be very early, but**
9:38am on 2/6/19 by
stazastarfish
**not by more than 1 hour. Sorry to hear they're still letting people run, tho. We got left behind in dust a bit, since 4 littles in fam. Got to ride SDD w/i ar 20 minutes. Then AS2. Skipped TSMM b/c 30min line by then. Rode it just b4 close.
9:39am on 2/6/19 by
stazastarfish
This is just me- but I'd rather spend my 2 hours waiting in a calm queue vs go through this. It's one reason you rarely see us at RD it can be madness and folks determined to be first on.
9:40am on 2/6/19 by
Mrs_Beast
I'm a fan of RD bc you can get a lot done in the first hour but not at the expense of human decency. I've done RD at 7 different Disney parks and DHS is by far the worst. The worst part? SDD is fine but it aint no Radiator Springs.
9:45am on 2/6/19 by
mbfavreau
An email or visit to Guest Svcs to describe all this--from all who have experienced it-- might get some changes implemented. Sounds like it's badly needed!
9:46am on 2/6/19 by
MamaOdie
This makes me seriously consider EMM. How were those crowds?
9:53am on 2/6/19 by
FriendsWithTheMonster
I'm thinking the same @sass, but I can't afford it with my group. Maybe just skip SDD if things don't settle down :-(
9:54am on 2/6/19 by
highhopes
Mama, very good suggestion but practically what could be done? Require a Fast pass was the only thing I can think.that obvs wouldn't work. I think the CMs did their utmost best. It is your human neighbours that suck and guest services cant change that.
9:56am on 2/6/19 by
mbfavreau
@says I mean it was a normal amount of RD crowd. 300 people or so. I definitely won't RD DHS again.
9:56am on 2/6/19 by
joejccva71
@sass*
9:57am on 2/6/19 by
joejccva71
We didn't see anyone being rude/pushy @HS RD. Just folks being excitable a bit, rushing ahead. The Babska (that's me, Dgm) led the way, 8 of fam following behind. Moms & Dads kept a careful eye on kiddos, to be safe from the rush.**
9:59am on 2/6/19 by
stazastarfish
**Just heard here this wk that CMs were walking ppl over to TSL, but maybe they've stopped doing now? Hope they start again. The FOP run was not nearly as crazy. Just a wider area in HS for folks to rush ahead I guess.
10:01am on 2/6/19 by
stazastarfish
The cms really tried there best... Constantly told people to get off sidewalk and repeatedly reminded everyone to walk but can't help people who are so self-centered! I can't imagine having to control that every morning. Maybe there's a better way to set
10:01am on 2/6/19 by
love2plan
What would it be like to arrive early and stay in the back of this crowd and aim to RD TSM and AS2? (We will be traveling with small kids and I have no interest in shenanigans but it seems still wise to get there early to ride those with short waits)
10:19am on 2/6/19 by
rlferguson
For those who have had negative experiences, please do stop at guest services or email. Those things shouldn't happen and I believe there is plenty they could do about it
10:20am on 2/6/19 by
DisneyEveryDay
It seems it would be much safer to keep people behind the tapstiles and then at opening let people begin trickling in.
10:22am on 2/6/19 by
DisneyEveryDay
We have gotten to dhs once or twice and they've just opened the tapstyles and it is much safer because people are spread out. I think they clump people beyond the entrance because the crowd otherwise backs up to bag check.
10:24am on 2/6/19 by
pcessas
10:26am on 2/6/19 by
stazastarfish
This surprises me. I RDd HS 2 days in a row mid January. There was certainly some running when SDD was in sight first morning (EMM morning) because CMs were spread thin dealing with EMM and RD guests. Next day - no issues at all! Sad for your experiences.
10:27am on 2/6/19 by
brtaylor73
**I would be there b4 8:30 at least tho. TSL opens actually @8:45 tho 9am is announced. And there'll be huge crowd in front of you by 8:30 even. Almost all heading to SDD tho.
10:28am on 2/6/19 by
stazastarfish
Ahhhhhhhh... today was EMM day. That explains it. Yes, RD in EMM day is not as orderly because fewers Cams to handle and control RD crowd!
10:28am on 2/6/19 by
brtaylor73
This RD madness has me reconsidering my plan too, I hope to have FPP for SDD so maybe be at the back of pack to hit AS2 then TSM
10:31am on 2/6/19 by
RDryan
Thank you @staza. Will look forward to looking at those charts. I know wait times will be better earlier but don't want my kids to get trampled in searching for a few minutes less in line. It does make me feel better that not everyone has had this exp.
10:34am on 2/6/19 by
rlferguson
Sfl
10:39am on 2/6/19 by
matterhorn55
So arrived at 6:30 am for 9:00 am opening with EMM? Curious what time actual RD happened and how much time from RD to ride exit? Were you able to ride TSM, ASS, ToT or RNCC with little to no waits after SDD?
10:43am on 2/6/19 by
boo427
@sass, we did EMM in December and it was not stressful all. Rode everything at least once (SDD I think 4?) and just enjoyed the area. Breakfast was delicious. Felt great to be leaving as the RD wall of humanity was approaching.
10:46am on 2/6/19 by
LovesFrozen
Reason I ask is I'm wondering if you could have arrived at 7:30 am (saving an hour) and still have been in a similar position \- 15 minutes. Ensuring that you're 1 hr early on EMM. Seems like OP simply arrived too early as crazy as that sounds.
10:48am on 2/6/19 by
boo427
@boo Yes easily could have arrived later cause people get in front of you. You have to basically be the same way in order to remain near the front. Its practically a war.
10:52am on 2/6/19 by
joejccva71
@joe what were you able to get done after SDD? And how on long did those attractions take? Honest question, do you think getting there as early as you did played into your frustrations?
10:58am on 2/6/19 by
boo427
11:02am on 2/6/19 by
brerbeer
We've experienced this in walks to Anna and Elsa (remember the Frozen 5k?), FEA and FOP as well as SDD. We just walk our normal speed and allow others to pass us by if they'd like. We still have a shorter wait than we would later in the day.
11:10am on 2/6/19 by
luvadole
I saw a video for RD 7DMT wherectge CM said "I have to be first in line so no running ahead." It looked like a much safer walk.
11:11am on 2/6/19 by
sportsqt
Sfl
11:23am on 2/6/19 by
rapunzelRN
Just to reiterate what I said earlier. Me and my friend were one of the ones at the front when they started walking us back. When that started, there were a ton of people pushing and shoving while walking. Teenage girl immediately cut in front of me. .
12:02pm on 2/6/19 by
joejccva71
..so then I was behind her and then it started tickling down. One big and tall guy holding his kid was elbowing not just me but others too. Either way it was bs, and I'm done with RDing DHS. I said something to guest services and a manager.
12:04pm on 2/6/19 by
joejccva71
I'm sorry that happened @joe. That kind of rude pretty rare (tho does sometimes) @Dis. found most are there w fams & friends, just want to have happy time. Just had road rage guy at post office yesterday, can happen anywhere I guess.
12:59pm on 2/6/19 by
stazastarfish
I like how they did it in AK whee the CM had to be 1st in line. It kept it orderly-ish. At HS, we were at front of crowd but i was in WC so we didn't run. We had tons rushing past, and by time we got there, 30 min wait.
2:00pm on 2/6/19 by
WendyFoundHerHEA
I was there this morning to RD TSMM. I arrived to the doorway of 5 and 10 on Hollywood Blvd packed in pretty tight according to my watch we started moving at 8:46. I knew to stay on left side of pack for TSMM. Took five mins to walk thru Que and another..
2:24pm on 2/6/19 by
McMinnie
My son has autism and he's very much a rule follower. When people start running he starts yelling "stop running it's not safe!" It's a LOT louder than any of the CMs warnings if they give one.
2:25pm on 2/6/19 by
fastzebra
5 mins to board. Then I rode a second time with FPP and the wait was 4 mins because they were letting quite a few from standby in FPP line.
2:27pm on 2/6/19 by
McMinnie
Thanks @loves. That's what I was hoping to hear :)
2:47pm on 2/6/19 by
FriendsWithTheMonster
@boo We were able to get SDD and TSMM done. Could not fit in Alien. I'm fine with getting two attractions in. I would still not get there super early if I did it next time. 7-730am is good.
4:20pm on 2/6/19 by
joejccva71
Rope drop might not work for some when it comes to SDD, but I will offer this tip: getting in standby line ten min before park close gave us a 35-40 min wait and we rode during fireworks
4:36pm on 2/6/19 by
natguidry
Sorry this happened to you. Brebeer's twitter link saddened me. Just doesn't look fun... huh. Have to think bout this.
4:48pm on 2/6/19 by
whenuwish
Wait till Star Wars land opens
4:48pm on 2/6/19 by
disneydreams4
Exactly your on vacation - why get up 2 hours early? Make FPP look for SD FP or get in line at closing. All better options in my opinion
5:09pm on 2/6/19 by
RandomActs75
Very true @RandomActs. I was so concerned about getting multiple FPP's for FoP that I missed getting SDD. Will make sure on my September trip.
5:22pm on 2/6/19 by
joejccva71
I'll be at RD
5:39pm on 2/6/19 by
brtaylor73
We were there in December. I got to HS at 8:15 (9 AM opening), lined up behind a tap all the way to one side where there were very few people in line, got through the taps early, and was standing right behind the CM who held us. I walked with the CM,
6:21pm on 2/6/19 by
mamatoalex
And was among the first in TSL. There was no running or pushing. I had my 2 kids with me, and it was completely fine. I don't know if we just lucked out. There was a line of CMs, though, and they all walked everyone back, so it's not like you could
6:23pm on 2/6/19 by
mamatoalex
Have gotten past them. Are they not doing the line of CMs anymore? That was very effective.
6:23pm on 2/6/19 by
mamatoalex
@mama Yes there was a line of both park CM's and TSL CM's. They walked us back very slowly but it did not matter, the pushing and shoving was crazy. Right as they started a teenage girl immediately jumped in front of me bumping me out of the way.
6:36pm on 2/6/19 by
joejccva71
Then it was chaos. People were elbowing and walking faster. I was directly behind someone and there was a tall guy holding a kid literally elbowing and pushing many people including myself. It wasnt pleasant.
6:38pm on 2/6/19 by
joejccva71
Our family motto: The back of the line at rope drop is still rope drop. Don't wait in line to not wait in line.
8:35pm on 2/6/19 by
PackTheCar
There is a difference in waiting in line prior to RD, the park is closed and you're not missing anything while you wait.
8:38pm on 2/6/19 by
ck15nc
Sfl
9:04pm on 2/6/19 by
steveandsteph
Oh wow, from the video it seems a lot more chaotic than even yesterday! We RD'd yesterday, got there at 745 for a 9 open. Prob the first 50 or so waiting. They funneled us down once we got to TS land by the right into a much smaller line....
9:24pm on 2/6/19 by
Dizsuz
...sorry your exp was so bad! The people in line with us were mostly friendly. But the way we are walked down the main st, then under the gate, the stampede feel seems inevitable. We had a stroller, NOT RECOMMENDED!
9:26pm on 2/6/19 by
Dizsuz
Tell us more about this experience. We have never missed a rope drop and have been first at the tap gates more often than not. If this advantage was taken away, I need details.
8:44am on 1/10/26 by
mbfavreau
This post is from 2019.
8:45am on 1/10/26 by
utang44
Sorry (embarrassed emoji). I was in the "my chats" section instead of the WDW chats section and bumped this and another.
7:08am by
mbfavreau
We've all done it @mb, sometimes it's nice to see how things used to be and old names that around around as much. We just also point out when it's old as so much changes we want to be sure people realize it's not current info. The best is when your..,,
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