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Getting LLMP but not LLSP for MK. We have EE and it's a party day, so 7:30 EE. Is RDing 7DMT then straight to Tron a solid plan? Anyone done it?

6:37pm by mom24

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I don't know. In April, we were literally on the first mine train at 7 Dwarfs. Immediately walked to Tron. We were about halfway up the hill. Ended up having a 75 min wait. They didn't start TRON until park opening and all the ILL people really slowed dow

11 min ago by h2olly

down the regular line. Was very disappointed that it wasn't open for EE. Perhaps that has changed?

10 min ago by h2olly

Regular entry opening time was 9 that day. 7 DMT actually started early just went back to look at pics and we were in TRON line at 8:35. We didn't get on Tron until 10:15.

5 min ago by h2olly

I need a 2 bedroom villa. Location on property doesn't really matter, although we will mostly be at EP and HS. I want Murphy beds, NOT sleep sofas. So what 2 bedroom is best?

8:24pm by Jennyhirsch

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The 2bedrooms at BWV would have the Murphy beds (2). They are all lockoffs that sleep up to 9.

9:20pm by PrincipalTinker

I can't rent points, sigh, bc the friends coming to see the World for a fast 48 hours are notoriously unreliable. So I am planning but need to be able to pivot from April to August to NYE on a moment's notice. Good thoughts here!

10:16pm by Jennyhirsch

Riviera is the right answer. Or BW/BC for those two parks

40 min ago by Totsypooh

Has anyone gone to the cake bake shop at Boardwalk for breakfast ?

8:36pm by poohbear1116

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Yes, I've been for both breakfast and lunch and enjoyed both.

9:46pm by snowdiz

My mom and I enjoyed it. Our server was so nice too. Had a standard breakfast which was good, and shared a slice of cake to top it off. If I was staying at an EP resort I'd go again, but wouldn't go way out of my way for it.

10:21pm by missWishes

I really dont get why they always make you wait outside before they let you in when the place is half empty. EVERY TIME. Also the servers lay it on a little thick - but i guess they are told to do that...

42 min ago by Totsypooh

Anyone in chat familiar with Asheville? Heading down with a couple of liners for my 50th. They want to sleep in Sat, so I was thinking of the NC arboretum vs the Saturday city market or tailgate market. Thoughts?

6:01pm by Enchantedbythemouse

Have not visited the places you named but loved exploring Biltmore Village and Grove Park Inn.

10:07pm by snowdiz

The whole town is a food and beer paradise, plus arts and culture. I don't have touring strategies, but love to visit. It's been 6 years since my last visit, though and not sure of current status, after their hurricane Helene impact.

46 min ago by gmcc

https://frhgrandpaxs.blogspot.com/2025/08/disney-updates-august-10-2025.html?sc=1754879767808#c3202039080173096465

49 min ago by Elaine5715

I have ziplocs of ice in the beverage cooler to help keep the stuff colder but it's melting fast. I thought I heard about adding ice to the ziploc. Is this true?

8:56am by vickiwaffles

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You mean adding salt?

8:59am by Jennyhirsch

Yes I meant adding salt.

9:37am by vickiwaffles

Breaking out my ancient thermodynamics college course learnings, adding salt allows the water to freeze at a lower temperature in the first place. When it comes to adding salt to a bag of already frozen ice, I assume the subsequent melting will...

9:54am by JJT (staff)

..lowers the melting & freezing points of the ice and effectively absorbs more heat from its surroundings(?)

9:57am by JJT (staff)

Ummmm does that mean yes @JJT add salt?

11:37am by popupcamper

@pop I have the same question :)

11:49am by VikeQueen

Yes. Add salt to ice to keep it from melting as fast.

11:55am by evamarie320

Ohhhhhh that's why we added rock salt to the crank ice cream maker when I was growing up. But wait why do they salt the roads and sidewalks when we get a freeze?

12:44pm by popupcamper

Salt is used on icy roads to lower the freezing point of water, preventing ice from forming or causing existing ice to melt

12:56pm by Elaine5715

Yes to everything above.

1:17pm by Jennyhirsch

Okay so ELI5. How can it help ice melt on roads, but keep ice frozen in a beverage cooler? Aren't those opposite outcomes?

4:01pm by popupcamper

Just went down a YouTube rabbit hole. Adding salt does melt the ice. On the road and in a baggie. But it also makes it colder. So while the baggie of salted ice will melt faster, it'll also be colder. Same thing with the roads.

4:15pm by popupcamper

https://youtu.be/Mf5wWE68HQY?si=aksqv2V8tRYeRa9s

4:15pm by popupcamper

So if the goal is to keep ice solid, don't add salt. If the goal is to keep something colder, add ice to the salt. If the goal is to keep water from icing in the first place, add salt.

4:17pm by popupcamper

I should add I'll begin adding salt to my coolers at the beach. I had no idea!

4:18pm by popupcamper

Okay wait. If it gets colder, but it's melted. Will it stay cold as long? I need to do an experiment. Hold the phone.

4:28pm by popupcamper

So, what does salt do when it's on the rim of my margarita glass? Oh, yes -- makes me drink it faster and order another one. Who said science is dead?

4:30pm by gmcc

@popupcamper said it much clearer than I did. I went too much into the #nerdzone. :D

5:21pm by JJT (staff)

@gmcc I think you need several rounds of physical trials to prove your hypothesis.

5:22pm by JJT (staff)

An hour into the experiment: method - 74 g ice in four identical highball glasses. I added 5 g Redmond natural salt into 2 glasses and stirred. Put 2 glasses - 1 salt 1 none in a 43 F fridge. Left 2 glasses - 1 salt 1 none on the counter in a 77 F kitchen

6:08pm by popupcamper

After 5 min: counter ice salted is 7.4 F colder; fridge salted is 12.2 F colder (22.8 versus 35.0) After 20 min: counter ice salted is 6.5 F colder; fridge salted is 13 F colder (19.6 vs 32.72)

6:10pm by popupcamper

After an hour: counter ice salted is HOTTER by 4.9 F (both are almost completely liquid, but non salted appears to have a bit more ice); fridge salted is 11.34 F colder (21.7 vs 33.)

6:13pm by popupcamper

I'll do my next measurements before bed tonight. Then one more time in the am.

6:13pm by popupcamper

This isn't the best experiment as I'm not measuring the temp of the fridge with ice versus salted ice which is what we're trying to test but since I don't own a beverage cooler hopefully this is the next best thing.

6:16pm by popupcamper

Next experiment: if you add more salt do you get colder glasses.

6:25pm by popupcamper

I'm very invested in this experiment now :) also , I want a margarita

6:43pm by VikeQueen

Ha ha. Nerds!

6:47pm by JackOfAll

The phase change also takes energy. So if you start out with ice, it 'uses' energy to get to melting point, then additional energy to melt.

6:47pm by moondance07

So @moon, is it making the fridge hotter to make the ice colder? DS has a dorm fridge. I bet I can get him to do ths experiment. He has two weeks before school starts.

6:56pm by popupcamper

Alright DS is on board. He's asking if anyone knows what temps the beverage coolers get to so he can best replicate. Anyone know?

7:21pm by popupcamper

Not an official time as I'm not writing it down but 2.5 hours in the salted ice in the fridge is still significantly colder. Salted ice on the counter is warmer. Both counter glasses are totally water now. Fridge salted ice is probably have melted...

7:39pm by popupcamper

Non salted ice is mostly still ice. Very little water, my guess is a teaspoon versus 2-3 tbsp.

7:40pm by popupcamper

In my experiment, I just woke up after being passed out for a couple of hours.

8:09pm by gmcc

8:21pm by popupcamper

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Also @jack, that makes me laugh every time I read it. https://youtu.be/sTDENzpW7tw?si=jv0pJH2MsX94kC11

8:23pm by popupcamper

@popup - you forgot the key control part of the experiment: how does the salted rim affect your margarita? I suggest pouring one, and drinking one, for each set of measurements. Results will vary. Fun is guaranteed.

9:02pm by DestinyCalled

Five hours in: countertop salted ice is still hotter but it's getting closer(.5 F hotter). Refrigerated ice salted is still colder but only 2.6 lower. (29.6 vs 32.2 F) salted has very little ice left. Non salted is mostly ice. Next update in the AM.

10:12pm by popupcamper

RD Q - I know the 90min rule for first bus, etc for RD... but is that true for Kidani Village to AK as well? Such a short distance and wasn't sure. What's been your experience? This will be our first stay there.

6:14pm by DestinyCalled

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Thx everyone, very appreciated! I'll be sure to update after our experience too. We have to hit bell services to send luggage to GFV, so I'm looking for as many extra minutes as I can find that morning. LOL

8:53pm by DestinyCalled

Oh that's interesting @popup. Makes complete sense. So there was some variability then on bus times but we've just settled on 75-90 as a good rule of thumb?

9:50pm by evamarie320

Exactly. AK was the closest to 75, I suspect since its earliest to open. Also the moderates with multiple stops tended to be 95 to account for 20 minutes inner resort. So 90 was a good rule of thumb.

10:02pm by popupcamper

Anyone have recent experience with Epcot deluxe extra hours (the PM ones)? Whats a good plan? We love it all but not sure how test track is playing into it now.

9:46pm by Phillylaura

Use to be a once a year deluxe family, but have traded it in for value now my DD is CM. What are thoughts on Music family suites. Deciding between 2 Pops or this?

8:19pm by 4wvufans

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Hi-long time poo lover but newly crowned music fan <3. Music busses are incredible but nothing beats the skyliner. Location of suites at music are great! I don't think you can go wrong with either. Music felt very similar to pop. We felt at home.

9:43pm by Phillylaura

Omg. What a typo. I swear we are long time POP lover

9:43pm by Phillylaura

I do cheapest. It is just a room. We drive to the parks. So much easier than Bake Bxes.

9:45pm by JackOfAll

Oh my goodness ! Disney jr play and dance is closed in October it says ?!my kids would love dancing with them. I am so bummed !! That's one of my main reasons wanting to go to HS ! Is there a different similar dance party or no ??

8:38pm by poohbear1116

There's one at the Halloween party, if you're planning on that. "Boogie down at Disney Jr. Jam Dance Party in Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe with friends from popular Disney Jr. shows."

9:42pm by lizshiv

Or maybe the ?Celebracion Encanto!

9:44pm by lizshiv

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