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Why do you love wdw? My excuse for wdw obsession is bc well, life is stressful & it helps w/ my anxiety. I find myself not thinking ab work, to do lists, etc when I'm focused on planning my next trip. Counting down to my 1st ever MVMCP!!

10:31pm by rapunzelRN

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Because it's my happy place. Lots of happy memories as a child and now making so many happy memories as a parent. The music and ambience really speak to me. My DH says he can always tell how much my mood shifts when I'm in the bubble.

29 min ago by Totsypooh

Also I really REALLY enjoy the planning and contemplating future trips. And thinking about the never ending to do list. And learning the ins and outs so that I can take advantage of the flaws in the system to create an awesome day regardless of crowds.

27 min ago by Totsypooh

Same for me as @ Rapunzel. The planning keeps me focused on my next break and not the stress/anxiety of everyday life. As for why WDW? It's fun, it's clean, it's safe, it's warm, it's convenient, it's familiar & most people are welcoming (CM's & Guests)

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I'm starting to stalk LLs and wait times for our trip next month. Would someone please remind the current return time grace periods for LL, ILL, and VQ? Thanks!

8:41am by wdw ocd

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LL is 5 minutes before, 119 late ILL is 5 minutes before and as late as you want (you paid - just be nice and you'll get in) VQ is anytime after your group is called. Group 1 can go at 6p if you want, although later = longer waits.

8:52am by brtaylor73

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8:57am by imadisneymom

Thanks very much!

9:47am by wdw ocd

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10:21am by equineone

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10:47am by PrincessKK

Sfl thanks!

10:56am by newbiemousefan

Perfect summary!!

11:01am by hlbyers

Well - there's also a way to be able to tap into any LL as early as you want and have Mickey turn green - but I learned that hack elsewhere and was asked not to post it anywhere else ;)

11:59am by brtaylor73

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2:37pm by tko

Omg. That's quite a game changer @brtaylor!!!! You were asked not to share the hack but maybe you can point us in the direction of learning about it ourselves? Lol

8:58pm by Pixie_Dusted

Well getting an anytime/ multi-experience fastpass will allow you to tap in early for all the rides that anytime is good for - that's been shared here previously.

9:05pm by Totsypooh

That's what I was thinking @Totsy. I thought that was in chat not just La Cava. Hard to keep straight.

9:09pm by greagan

Good point. I had forgotten about that tip. So. Many. Hacks.

9:30pm by Pixie_Dusted

So if you have an anytime and say a pirates LL, if you tap early to pirates will it use that LL instead of the anytime?

9:40pm by Enchantedbythemouse

Yes. That's my understanding.

10:26pm by greagan

Nice. Thanks for the tip

10:29pm by WaltsGreatestFans

That's a different approach, but a good one. One I didn't test (because I never had a chance) - what if you get LL for (say) EE in final hour of operation and it goes down. We know you get multi experience for ALL but ILL following day as a result...

25 min ago by brtaylor73

...Can you tap early all day the following day thanks to that prior night EE converting?

25 min ago by brtaylor73

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The anytime will have a list of rides it's valid for. Usually equal to or lower than whatever ride went down and you got it for. It will only work for those rides.

24 min ago by Totsypooh

Yes @br - it allows to to tap in all day the next day as long as it's for the rides it's valid for. And then some folks have had luck getting GS to move the anytime to the next day and use it all over again. As long as you don't use it.

22 min ago by Totsypooh

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1 min ago by WaltsGreatestFans

Has anyone tried getting both RotR and GotG in the same day? Was thinking of starting at DHS buy ILL jump to EPCOT try for virtual queue and if available ILL. Doable? Or just crazy idea?

9:28pm on 10/4/22 by 321itsme

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You ready for this tidbit? You can get more than 2 ILLs per day :) To answer your question without dropping the deets on truth bomb, yes. You can do this. Get GotG ILL first. Get RotR second. You won't be able to go for GotG VQ until you hop if available

9:34pm on 10/4/22 by brtaylor73

If you're going on a low CL day and feel confident Park Ressie for HS will be available same day at 7:01, make your park ressie for EP. Use BG1, get your free VQ for GotG, then get the two ILLs, then modify your park ressie from EP to HS. VQ won't go away

9:36pm on 10/4/22 by brtaylor73

Or better yet, make two park reservations for the same day to HS and EP. Yup, I learned that truck, too :)

9:38pm on 10/4/22 by brtaylor73

Trick, not truck. Now I want to pass a trucker and do the arm pump move to get him to toot his horn.

9:38pm on 10/4/22 by brtaylor73

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10:01pm on 10/4/22 by Maerida88

I was wondering what other tricks you had learned about @br. Very interesting.

10:11pm on 10/4/22 by greagan

Couldn't use some of them due to Challenge rules. Came home and tested what I could. They all worked. Genie plus, park ressies and ILLs have so many exploitable bugs in the code with huge impacts way beyond what I read in La Cava.

10:18pm on 10/4/22 by brtaylor73

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11:33pm on 10/4/22 by CharWat

I'm like a sponge. Soaking it all in.

11:48pm on 10/4/22 by MarioMom

Good old Disney IT. Do tell. :)

11:53pm on 10/4/22 by Totsypooh

We tested the VBG and switch park reservation to another park theory a few times in August, with luck. Idk if it's foolproof. But we had success.

12:18am by Disneymom_of3

Wow! Great tips from @brtaylor as always, SFL

12:25am by Operaml

Depending on crowds when you go, it doesn't have to be terribly complicated. We didn't buy any ILL and did the VQ and rode ROTR standby in one day. But it was a low crowd time.

12:47am by schoenbauer

Great info. Everytime I take a break from chat for a while I feel like a newbie again.

1:15am by strider1

I booked the VQ, ILL for ROTR and GOTG, and LL for RNRC then changed my park res to MK to get a LL there. Worked perfectly!

7:04am by BlastThatPeterPan

Y'all are great. Thank you! I need to explore this more...

7:35am by kingdomminded

interesting...

7:58am by imadisneymom

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8:55am by Tennillemichelle@i-836151

Silly question, but do we have to change our park reservation to make genie+ reservations in our second park of the day? We are starting at HS and want to ride SDD and MMRR. After we do use our G+, do I change to Epcot to make reservations there next?

9:43am by Griffin611

And would that give me access to the 1 PM VQ?

9:44am by Griffin611

@griffin, no you'll be able to make genie plus reservations at any park if you have hoppers BUT not until return times get after 2. You can't switch a reservation after you've tapped into your first park. Also no you have to have tapped into EP before 1..

9:50am by popupcamper

...to be eligible for the 1 pm VQ.

9:50am by popupcamper

@BlastThatPeterPan when you switched your res from HS to MK did you have to still wait 2 hours after last booked LL to book LL at MK?

9:58am by KPH1976

@popup - thank you. 9 days and I'm getting nervous to use G+ for the first time!

9:59am by Griffin611

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10:20am by equineone

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10:49am by PrincessKK

@KPH - my question too!

11:20am by heathernoel

I want to add we have had so much success with BG1 for both virtual queue and Genie Plus overlay. If you do utilize BG1, please consider donating to the tip jar: https://joelface.github.io/bg1/contact.html Scroll down for options.

11:51am by ndnarchitect

Based on Genie Plus behavior with other hacks not described here, is - once you change your Park Res from HS to MK, likely need to wait 2 hrs after HS opens, since that is park your last (first) LL was made. But could be 2 hrs after MK opens.

11:56am by brtaylor73

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@KPH it had already been 2 hours since last booked, so I can't attest to whether it would have let me rebook earlier. All my LL were after 2 pm.

12:39pm by BlastThatPeterPan

Regardless of where your APR is, your second LL is two hours past park open at the park where the first LL is booked.

1:02pm by utang44

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3 min ago by WaltsGreatestFans

MB+ - are they worth it? Are they a hassle to keep charged? I can't find my last MB & I'm thinking of ordering 1 for Nov trip, so getting discount. More concerned with battery drain than with the bells and whistles. Whatcha all think?

18 min ago by dbcoleman

They do need to be charged every night. Otherwise they don't work consistently. I'd get it for a kid but for adults plain ones are good enough. I actually switched to an old band when I got sick of the distraction of random buzzing.

3 min ago by Totsypooh

Coronado- regular room or Gran Destino Tower room? Prices are comparable... and I'll likely drop most of my Poly stay if the Deluxe hrs go away.

8:33pm by JERancher

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I'd go GDT, I think the up charge is worth being in such a nice space and near all the amenities

9:57pm by TonyCross

Gotcha. Thanks @JER

10:25pm by greagan

GDT is beautiful. Rooms are huge. Loved the view from room.

3 min ago by JenniferB1975

Hi all - I'm hosting a Halloween movie night for girls ages 9-12 and a few parents - and I'm stuck on what movie to show. Any ideas? Nothing too scary, hopefully fun - nice music a plus. Ideally a Halloween show, otherwise I might fall back on encanto etc

5 min ago by Totsypooh

32 & 200. Getting close! I may need to start my packing list. Good morning Liner friends! Let's see those beautiful countdown numbers!

6:20am by TacMed

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7 days! I started packing today. Did inventory of travel toiletries, bought plane snacks! Reviewed plans, checked mears/ car rental for dh (he's driving dd home from dcp)

9:01pm by dzaharchuk

52 days! First ever time getting to Festival of the Holidays!

9:23pm by RiRiLovesDisney

81! Goodnight Liners!

10 min ago by Canadianminnie

Remy is new for our daughters. On an early entry Epcot day, I did main vs IG entrances to Remy to see if it made a large difference. Wait time 31 minutes for both, arriving 8:05 from IG and 8:18 from main entrance. Trying to decide if Uber to swan

11:40am by Tornadosoup

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is worth it, but probably not since we would have free parking if we just drove. Does 31 minutes sound about right for Remy on a busy day for early entry? Monday Oct 10, Columbus day

11:41am by Tornadosoup

Not willing to risk test track for early entry - that's the only other "must"

11:42am by Tornadosoup

True RD for Remy means you likely ride it before 8a unless it delay opens if entering IG / front of pack. You can't line up front of pack for Remy entering EP main.

11:57am by brtaylor73

Ok, this is good intel and what I was wondering. DH isn't thrilled about these rope drop things so trying to decide if it's worth getting him to IG rope drop from Saratoga Springs. Thanks!

12:30pm by Tornadosoup

You'll want to be at IG rope at 7a for 8a open. The security guard will eventually tell the crowd to form 2 lines with a clear gap between them he can see the bridge thru, and a 3rd line for strollers (1 parent per stroller, rest of family in other lines)

1:01pm by brtaylor73

If you get there a little late and see two "sort of" lines and others disbursed along the rope, get in the back of one of the lines. The rest of the people WILL have to get in line behind you. Those lines are to march to/thru security.

1:02pm by brtaylor73

Once thru security speed walk to an entry tap. Even if you weren't front of the 2 lines you may be 1st to a tap. When time, tap and speed walk up hill to the early access scanners. Announce your party size as you approach. Only one person needs scan.

1:04pm by brtaylor73

Turn right to cross the bridge to France. Stay on the right side of the bridge. CMs will tell you when to stop. This will be a single file line along the bridge's right railing and it will be walked back as such into Remy.

1:05pm by brtaylor73

Good info Brian. Definitely going to need this in a couple weeks.

1:06pm by PiratePixie

Those details are pure gold @brt. Thank you for being so specific!

2:01pm by kingdomminded

This is great, thanks!

2:15pm by real6115

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2:18pm by bluebird32

Perfect - thank you!

2:38pm by Tornadosoup

Sorry. Typo. Arrive IG 7a for 8:30a opening. 8:00 would be the EE hours start and that is why the 3rd stop is the CM checking for a resort stay to get by then and head over the bridge towards France.

3:06pm by brtaylor73

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6:40pm by RahelAnn

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7:20pm by beeptp

We took uber and got dropped off and walked to IG entrance. We were first people on Remy, 1000 percent recommend this. Got dropped off at 645, walked briskly. Off Remy by 8 and straight to Frozen. Have fun!

7:30pm by colodisneylover

And @brtaylor describes the procedure amazingly!

7:31pm by colodisneylover

Great info @brt. Sfl

9:28pm by RiRiLovesDisney

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9:31pm by taylourb

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9:37pm by RDtilYouDrop

Is Swan the closest Uber dropoff to walk to IG?

10:11pm by wdw ocd

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10:12pm by imadisneymom

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10:15pm by MCU3000

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10:16pm by cmschell22

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Yes, that was a perfect recap by @brt. We experienced the same, but I wouldn't have been able to recall and articulate that in as much accurate detail.

10:30pm by gmcc

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If anyone is interested in taking a newbie under their wing I'd love it! We're going during Christmas 2023, expecting peak crowds but that's the only time we could make it work. I'm currently at the stage of trying to decide which day we should ...

10:30pm on 10/4/22 by judy1906

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be at which park or whether the day even matters and it's all going to be madness. We have the dates from Dec 18-27 to play with (traveling on the 17 and 28)... we'll do one park per day and also want 1 or 2 days for universal.

10:33pm on 10/4/22 by judy1906

I'm currently thinking 2 for MK, and 1 for each of the other parks. We're Disneyland pros but haven't been to WDW in decades so treating it like newbies. Wondering if since we're okay skipping Disneyland duplicates if we don't need 2 for MK and should do

10:35pm on 10/4/22 by judy1906

2 elsewhere. And which days before and after Christmas you recommend for which parks. Or whether it doesn't matter if we go before or after Christmas, crowds will be the same.

10:35pm on 10/4/22 by judy1906

Family of 5, some of us do coasters, some don't, planning on using LL and ILL, won't be doing any after hours parties. Staying off site in a rental house. What other questions should I answer to get the recommendations rolling?

10:37pm on 10/4/22 by judy1906

So, u will do 10 park days, including 1 or 2 at universal?

10:40pm on 10/4/22 by Peter Pannie13

You are right, days will be crowded so expect that and you'll be fine. Haha. Definitely plan a day at MK after Christmas because the Christmas parade will be between the 25th and NYE. Not sure about differences with DL but we really like having 2 days ***

10:54pm on 10/4/22 by youcanfly

*** for MK.

10:54pm on 10/4/22 by youcanfly

I believe the Cmas parade starts the day after the last party.

11:55pm on 10/4/22 by Totsypooh

I would do two for HS. One for MK and AK. MK is easier to plan with G+ since it works so well over there. And I would go on a day with extra hours if you are staying on site. The same goes for Epcot. I would get Genie + for every park to make most of it.

12:09am by Weasel22

Since you're DL pros, here's what I've gleaned in ride comparisons: -Galaxy's Edge is exactly the same -Other rides that are the same, or close: Pooh, Teacups, Dumbo, Speedway, Splash, -Better at DL: Pirates, Space, Soarin, IASW, TSMM, IJ -Better at...

12:26am by JERancher

...Better at WDW: Haunted Mansion (except for the holiday overlay time in DL!), ToT is diff enough from GotG that it's really worth a ride, WDW's Peter Pan has a great queue Toss-up: BTMR is slightly diff

12:30am by JERancher

Oh, @judy! Just realized it's you! Just had a worlds colliding moment. Welcome over here! Anyway: with the ride comparisons, I'd think you could be fine with one day in MK, personally, but maybe throw it in a TP to make sure, since it'll be such...

12:35am by JERancher

...a busy time. EP and AK are much more unique for DL folks, so I'd consider doing two days at whichever of those strikes your fancy (more to do in EP, IMO, but that's me).

12:36am by JERancher

A big draw at UOR at Christmastime is that they bring portions of Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade to the park every evening. Might want to prioritize seeing that, if interested.

12:41am by JERancher

Oh, one last thing about UOR: the Express Pass will likely be worth the money that week. It's an expensive upgrade, but a room in their top tier hotels grants all of the party unlimited EP for both check-in and check-out day. I know you'll be staying...

12:51am by JERancher

... off-site, but you might want to do the math for five ppl, and see if it pays to book a room for one night, anyway.

12:52am by JERancher

JERancher, yes! I'm noticing a couple of the same names.as.on the land side. Hello! :)

1:14am by judy1906

We have 10 days on the ground but I assume we'll do a few days of non park time, or just having some flex time. So 5 days for WDW, 1-2 for Universal.

1:15am by judy1906

If we're okay skipping GE would you still recommend 2 full days for HS? We aren't park hopping and we're staying offsite.

1:16am by judy1906

I'd love to do 2 days at EP but I feel like our 3 kids would be bored out of their minds as Hubby and I food hop. But maybe not since there's ratatouille, frozen, and guardians now? Hmm. We have plenty of time to figure it out, just mulling over variables

1:21am by judy1906

THANK YOU for the ride comparison to DL, this is awesome

1:21am by judy1906

Is UOR universal? I have a bunch of new acronyms to learn :)

1:23am by judy1906

Other random questions... how is nomad lounge with kids (preteens)? What table service spot do you recommend for a turkey dinner, inside the parks or outside at a resort is fine, I just wanna make sure to schedule a "Christmas dinner" for us at some point

1:31am by judy1906

Doesn't have to be ON Christmas.

1:31am by judy1906

The one additional thing I was looking to add would be treats and seats fireworks viewing. But is that a thing the week of Christmas or is it taken over by the hard ticket events?

1:32am by judy1906

Are there any other new rides or shows besides Tron to keep tabs on? I wonder what tron vs guardians will be like, which will regin supreme.

1:34am by judy1906

We are 4 (teens just grew up) adults now. We are not into star wars so HS was half day for us.We love animal kingdom, mornings better so you can hop straight on the safari! We like 2 days MK as there's just so much to do. Love Epcot too but that's just us

3:40am by Elephantintheroom

Liberty Tree or Diamond Horseshoe in MK would work for your traditional holiday dinner. They share a kitchen I think.

4:19am by Hamelers99

@judy, for Christmas dinner check out Sanaa at AKL. They do a special menu thanksgiving so guessing they'd do something for Christmas too. Then you have excuse to park and can wander resort - decor is amazing and seeing animals while dining is special

6:34am by lisagarcia01

Welcome over @Judy! Even though you know DL I'd still do two days at MK. There's just so much more there than at the other parks especially for preteens. Unless they're big Star Wars people. Christmas like lunch I think liberty tree tavern in MK...

6:47am by popupcamper

...it's a traditional thanksgiving/holiday meal which in my family are the Turkey, stuffing, etc. Agree about considering getting a room at UOR for express pass. It may be worth it.

6:50am by popupcamper

-Yes, UOR is Universal Orlando, sorry for the inside jargon! -Treats and seats should be going on on the nights that the Christmas party is not. If seeing the FW in the park is a priority, I'd keep an eye on when those dates are released. -Another vote..

7:11am by JERancher

...for Liberty Tree Tavern. Turkey and all the fixings, and very, very good. -I'd not do more than a day in HS. Minus GE, you'll want to hit Slinky, Runaway Railway, Tower of Terror, Rockin Roller Coaster, and maybe some shows. -I'd still consider...

7:14am by JERancher

...two days at EP, if you want to do any food booths at all, and lean into the rides and the scavenger hunts for your kiddos. But totally understand if you wouldn't want to- it's a toss-up. -No new rides other than Tron to keep an eye out for, sadly.

7:16am by JERancher

-For days off: the holiday decor at Wilderness Lodge and Animal Kingdom Lodge is awesome. Very cool gingerbread displays at Grand Floridian and Beach/Yacht cClub. Could be fun to do stuff like that. -You didn't ask, but food: WDW quick service pales...

7:19am by JERancher

@judy, MMRR at HS is a fun new ride to try.

7:20am by Woody70

...in comparison to DL, with few exceptions. But there are more table service options that are very, very good. Would be happy to offer recommendations if it'd be helpful. If kids are still into characters, there are more char meals here as well, wit...

7:21am by JERancher

...with differing levels of quality.

7:21am by JERancher

If doing 5 at DW, I would normally do 2 at MK and the others once. But, since u may just need 1 day at MK, I would do 2 at Epcot. Plenty for the kids to do there also!

1:07pm by Peter Pannie13

Can't make suggestions for universal. We can never pull ourselves away from Disney long enough to go! Lol

1:08pm by Peter Pannie13

We always try to fit as much park time in as possible, so my family would probably do 8 at disney, twice at each park, especially during that time of year. No rest days, but we would sleep in a couple days, lol

1:11pm by Peter Pannie13

Definitely want to do MMRR, we haven't been on it yet! We're okay skipping GE if need be since we've been 3 times in Disneyland. We can always add it if we're doing okay on time.

1:46pm by judy1906

And I guess if we're trying to do treats and seats we're better off doing 2 days at MK.... hmmm. Maybe I'll break down and also do a 2nd day at EP. I know we're gonna wish we had more time for food.

1:48pm by judy1906

Thanks for the Univeral tips. We'd be buying the skip the line pass so we'll just have to do the math on that vs hotel night. Plus if we did one hotel night we'd be closer to the park that morning.

1:50pm by judy1906

Hmmm we'd save about $50 not doing a universal hotel but might be worth it to start our day half an hour closer to the park... hmmm I'll have to see if parking is extra at the hotel, that adds to the cost. One kid is on the floor or we pay for a cot...

2:04pm by judy1906

I'll definitely want table service recommendations but I can wait to ask about that until closer to our trip. Seems like plenty of research available on YouTube as well.

2:08pm by judy1906

Character dining isn't a priority since we've done it at Land and the kids are getting older. Maybe we'll throw in Tusker House since we'll be in AK early on that day.

2:09pm by judy1906

I like the All Ears tip to rope drop the park and then do a lunch table service reservation off site at a resort so you can have a break from the crowds. If anyone has thoughts on that let me know. Which place you'd recommend going starting from each park

2:11pm by judy1906

I think i would stay at Universal resort to be closer. I would also stay in the park for lunch instead of going to a resort, unless u are doing multiple park days. It just eats up too much time.

3:11pm by Peter Pannie13

Sci-Fi at HS is a can't miss for us! Our other favorites are Tusker House, San Angel Inn, and Biergarten.

3:12pm by Peter Pannie13

I'll be there voice of opposite...sure sit down for lunch is good but DONT LEAVE. It might have been an odd day but we literally lost 3hrs in the parks by going to b&c for lunch. My dh was so mad. He was like never again lol.

3:18pm by melodicwords

We tended to power through the days, using indoor shows and such as breaks from crowds, and then leave around dinner time if we had a good TS restaurant... but I know lots of folks take midday breaks. For meals: Topolino's breakfast and dinner, Sanaa...

6:51pm by JERancher

... Homecomin' if doing Disney Springs, California Grill is iconic for FW view. Liberty Tree is good for a MK day. Lots of good options at EP, inc the booths.

6:54pm by JERancher

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Yeah I'll have to figure it out because we wouldn't be doing a mid day hotel break but staying on our feet in Christmas time crowds for 12 plus hours isn't reasonable so I assumed we'd use a long offsite lunch as a break. Maybe not every day.

23 min ago by judy1906

Having a 3 hour break from crowds at the height of the day would be nice.

23 min ago by judy1906

Do universal Hollywood wands work at UOR?

16 min ago by judy1906

If this is not appropriate, admins please delete. I have a T-shirt from HK DL that I purchased there in 2017. Never worn. Probably a S/M in US. Want to gift to someone that will love it. Let me know and I will send your way. Don't know how to show pic.

8:01pm by shenkel

Should say ... white women's T-shirt with black beading. Ready beautiful.

8:02pm by shenkel

@shenkel, I'm a small. That's so nice of you. I'll contact you in forum.

10:00pm by evamarie320

This is so nice! - liner also gifted me with a lovely shirt last Xmas! With some bonus goldfish crackers! :)

10:09pm by Totsypooh

Sorry, I read that as a white womens' t shirt and thought "huh?" Hahaha. I'm clearly ready for sleep. G'night y'all.

23 min ago by brtaylor73

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