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Circling back on a previous conversation about the change to the LL queue for Soarin. I have been able to ride 4x with LL since the change. Each time I have waited longer than I wanted/expected to with LL. The waits were 16, 25, 23 and 15 minutes. I ....

4:27pm on 12/6/25 by McMinnie

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I also don't appreciate how at the door you are told to just merge in/cut the line. The CM could at least hold the standby group and create an opening for you to merge into the line.

4:29pm on 12/6/25 by McMinnie

Oh, man. I was hoping it was just me!

4:46pm on 12/6/25 by TumbleMonkeys

Funny, when I did it they held me at the door and I had to wait while they let the crowd load up the next sections.

5:29pm on 12/6/25 by PrincipalTinker

This new system was a total mess when we were there. We actually waited longer for LL than the posted standby. Someone is making a really bad decision on this. Go back to the way that isn't a mess.

5:42pm on 12/6/25 by polypack

Oh man I was hoping they had fixed this. I love Soarin' and want to be able to use my LL with ease and get what I paid for.

8:07pm on 12/6/25 by njhyndman

I had assumed it was something temporary to deal an unexpected situation. Not only is the new setup ugly, I can't see any reason for it.

10:01pm on 12/6/25 by cigar95

Has anyone given feedback about this?

6:01am by Flutegarden

I did mention on another thread that I timed and submitted my LL wait time for TP. I always submit the posted time as I enter the queue and then time the wait. My LL was greater than the posted time and I think the standby time was correct.

6:40am by PrincipalTinker

Wow I'm amazed by this. Disney usually does much better line mgmt than this

7:14am by VikeQueen

Newest Mammoth Club video: "We just rode Soarin. The whole experience took almost an hour, and that's with a LL, so pack your patient pants."

10:37am by TumbleMonkeys

Ugh. I can report back on Sunday. I can't visualize it right now, but it does always seem to take a long time.

11:30am by Jennyhirsch

What changed with the queue? Ll usually takes 20-30 tap in to exit . Was a theater down?

1:23pm by RileysBirthday

We knew it was different and it did take longer on Thursday. We had a LL too.

1:24pm by momma4fun

@reillys, they moved the LL merge point up. So you join standby before you used to.

1:32pm by popupcamper

They have also appeared to change the ratio of standby/LL into the queue.

2:04pm by PrincipalTinker

Everywhere has done that. I think as of April?

2:41pm by popupcamper

If you rd soarin you can ride 2 to 3 times easily.

2:58pm by JackOfAll

That's what I plan to do now. It's just frustrating that my favorite ride is now a Tier 2 LL, which seems like great news, yet it doesn't really have any value.

3:00pm by TumbleMonkeys

@popup, I have never been held at the merge point for more than 50(many more) standby guests. I went to all 4 parks and it was the only attraction that did that. I understand there were no other LL users in line behind us, but it was unusual.

3:33pm by PrincipalTinker

So this my new goal. Counting guests let in from standby before I get to go.

3:41pm by Jennyhirsch

Yeah, we didn't encounter similar LL/standby rider nonsense at any other ride during our trip. All other waits were short and sweet. Only had an issue at Soarin, where the merge point is a big, nonsensical problem.

3:59pm by utang44

I had no idea you were saying you were standing at the new door and the CM let 50 standby guests go in front of you. That was not our experience in Oct. maybe 10-15.

4:23pm by popupcamper

I did not turn around but there was an attempt to significantly move the standby line while we waited. I would have appreciated that if I was in standby but that posted wait was 20 minutes.

4:31pm by PrincipalTinker

I should have said: I did not turn around after I entered the merge to see how many people were still in standby.

4:34pm by PrincipalTinker

I'm not sure I understand @PT, did the CM hold you at the door while over 50 guests went in front of you? (@jenny, I count everytime. It's usually less than 15. We should start a new tab on the spreadsheet.)

50 min ago by popupcamper

It used to be only one group IME. Now it's closer to 3-4 groups.

49 min ago by popupcamper

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I felt like the LL stopped more frequently up to the point of merge, too. Rather than simply walking our way up, it was a stop and start for a while. So bigger groups of standby let in and more groups, in my experience.

34 min ago by utang44

@popup, yes, the CM held us at the door as they waved all the stand by crowd by. For us, it seemed like they loaded all the spots for the video and then reloaded multiple queues with standby before we were allowed at the end.

3 min ago by PrincipalTinker

I am learning something new every day. I will count all the time! Although this is the first time in years I will have had a Ll for Soaring!

< 1 min ago by Jennyhirsch

Does Disney stop allowing entry to the park during deluxe extra evening hours at some point? For example, extra hours are 7-9, can you show up at 8? How about 8:45?

5:21pm by kcaseybooks

You can get into the park if you are eligible but if you do not make it to an attraction line, you are not getting on anything. Also, MK might be different but it seemed like at AK everything else stops at the end time.

< 1 min ago by PrincipalTinker

Staying at BW resort view room for 1st time. We've run into many angry people in halls who can't find their room. Seems odd for a deluxe resort. Is this a normal experience at Boardwalk?

4:24pm by twig991

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lol @hodg. My mom and I had some difficulty finding ours too. But then she went to look for ice and it was right next door, so it felt like it evened out.

4:54pm by TumbleMonkeys

I always hear about how complex and long some of those halls are BW- it's infamous for that! I will say, my only stay there, we kept running into some odd individuals, particularly at the pool

5:16pm by LaurenInWonderland

The quiet pool is a challenge indeed. And you would think you'd be able to go straight from ground level at quiet pool thru a hall then exit on boardwalk. But nope! Gotta go up and then down!

1 min ago by Jennyhirsch

"What's cookin'?" DW and I just returned from making memories with the grands and seeing Santa! Dinner tonight will be homemade pizza; traditional with pepperoni, onions and half with fresh mushrooms. German butter cookies for dessert.

5:03pm by TacMed

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Grandbaby just left today and we are just having left over spaghetti....the house is a little too quiet tonight :(

20 min ago by Wishinonastar

I'm eating Garrett's Chicago mix that @packfan brought me. Watching Bears/Packers and sipping a Peroni. Had lunch at Nomad before getting totally drenched at AK.

9 min ago by snowdiz

Just curious about St. Augustine @eva. Not so much about the cheese and crackers ;-)

2 min ago by MOJoe

If they cancel or delay fireworks or a parade at the party, do they send out a push notification, or does it just get posted in MDE? Wondering if I should keep checking. Thanks!

13 min ago by daisylover78

I dont think so. I think news is announced over speakers in the actual park but if you aren't in park, I have no idea how you would know.

3 min ago by Jennyhirsch

Oh my gosh, it looks like BG1 is working again to modify LL! I'm so happy!!

11:13am on 12/6/25 by PixiePoppins

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Got it. Thank you so much!

4:37pm by tangled

Whoohoo!

5:23pm by RedHeadedTexan

YAY!!!

16 min ago by Wishinonastar

In March, we are onsite with AP but meeting newbie friends (4adults, 2kids) who are driving to MK in the am with a 1day tix and want to buy LL. No magic bands. How do they scan in? Prob easier for me to add them to my MDE for plans than to show her how.

12:40pm by pkitt

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I wouldn't do it that way, personally. I'd have them buy and put their tickets on their own account. It's really not that complicated to set up an MDE account for an adult who can then manage the rest in their account.

36 min ago by utang44

For the purposes of LL buying, you just need to link to their account. Linking is way simpler and less annoying that having a bunch of people under your account.

36 min ago by utang44

Yes it is. Also, looks like you're onsite but they aren't, so these LL will have to be booked at 3 days if they're for everybody.

34 min ago by TumbleMonkeys

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2:34pm by TheREALniter

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2:41pm by TheREALniter

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4:05pm by TheREALniter

We have purchased annual passes and plan to use them for the first time in a couple of weeks. In order to get PH discount at hotel, the fine print says we need to present "valid" APs at check in. Are new but unused APs "valid"? Thx

2:43pm by Gullfam

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With online checkin and mobile key to bypass the desk, I'm surprised that's still there. Once you activate your AP at the park this should work for everything you do including parking if needed, shopping and dining discounts etc.

3:29pm by youcanfly

We have never been asked to verify an AP for the passholder resort discount. If it's visible in your account when you book (which it is, because you can't access the discount otherwise), that's all that is needed. Online check-in and carry on.

4:00pm by utang44

On our first stay after getting APs two years ago, we checked in online and even spoke with a CM in the lobby before our APs were activated and never had to show the AP for verification.

4:01pm by utang44

Never seen Fantasmic before... can you just walk in 10-15 minutes before the show and have a spot? Going Dec 20

8:36am on 12/6/25 by wislp

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Personally, I wouldn't spend $$ on the dining package - if you weren't planning on a TS meal in HS. I'd just try to get there 30-40 mins early, which is what they tell you to do with the dining package. It is still a good show even if you are off center.

8:30am by NervousRex

I agree with @Nervous.

8:35am by TumbleMonkeys

If you're not picky and best chance is the second showing. It might be doable especially the second one

3:37pm by WorldTraveler34

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